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Can you please forward this email to address@hidden

My subscribed email address is still being rejected.

Thanks
Zen


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FYI.

The Hardware Freedom DataBase aims to create just such a community-wide
hardware database.

At the moment, there is the possibility to work closely with Mr
Kamppeter of LinuxPrinting.org, the HAL team, and others.

Everyone is on the same page here, just needs a little time, and a
little scripting ability.

For more information, see the list:

http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/hfdb

(For the next few months, I expect to have to continue working a six day
week, due to the way things are for me; yet if no one gets to it sooner,
or either way, I shall return, in time.)

Regards
Zenaan


On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 06:41, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> Hi Roland,
> 
> I'm a core upstream developer in the major UPS
> support project, called NUT - Network UPS Tools [1].
> 
> I'm also a DD, and a person who like to standardise
> things and help to improve opensource to give its best.
> 
> The HWDB is an interesting notion, but I think this
> should be a shared effort between Debian, other
> distros, upstream projects and opensource users.
> On such not trivial subject, make our own effort
> would lead in a pure waste of effort.
> 
> I'm sure that there is a need to formalise things,
> and maybe to create or join a wider GNU/Linux
> Hardware Compatibility effort.
> 
> While waiting for the above discussion, here are few
> remarks and ideas (feel free to go on):
> 
> 1)  thanks to add me <aquette> to the CVS
> and to subscribe me to the list.
> 
> 2) debian/README:
> 
>     - add an explicit reference to the hwdb URL
>     ie: "* Point your prefered browser at http://localhost/hwdb/ to
>     access Debian HWDB"
> 
>     - add in Related Links the following references (to be
>     completed with _all_ existing HWDB efforts)
>     * "Network UPS Tools (UPS support):
>     http://eu1.networkupstools.org/compat/";
>     Note that the source file of this HWDB is available
>     in NUT Debian packages [2].
>     * "LinuxPrinting.org (Printer support):
>      http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi";
>     * "Linux USB devices overview:
>     http://qbik.ch/usb/devices/";
> 
> 
> 3) HWDB itself:
> 
>     - replace the Driver notion by a Software one,
>     or link the Driver to a Software (or package).
>     ie linux/hid, nut/newhidups, sane/epson, ...
> 
>     - add version to Driver and software
> 
>     - add support level for Devices, such as in Mdk [3]
>      with the same kind of levels.
> 
>     - add support level for Manufacturers (ie no support,
>     good support, excellent support, ...) and detail the
>     requirement for each.
> 
>     - Report:
> 
>     * a DD signed report gives a "tested" level
>     * need to create TestCase, containing scripts
>     that automates and proof the report
>  
>     - automated list updates from upstream: having
>     driver.list (such as in nut [2] in each packages
>     that should provide hw support would be a good
>     thing.
> 
>     - merge all existing effort, as sub part of the project,
>     to involve existing people.
> 
> I've some more, but I need to clarify some ideas in
> my mind. While waiting, I hope the above will have
> a positive echo.
> 
> See you,
> Arnaud
> ---
> [1] http://eu1.networkupstools.org/
> [2] nut: /usr/share/doc/nut/docs/driver.list.gz
> [4] http://www.mandrakelinux.com/fr/hardware.php3
> 
> 
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