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Re: I can't download 1.11.1p1 source
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Eric Siegerman |
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Re: I can't download 1.11.1p1 source |
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Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:08:17 -0400 |
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On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 08:10:27AM +0100, James Youngman wrote:
> Martin, let me assure you that it is there, somewhere. [i.e. the CVS
> source is on www.cvshome.org.] I also
> downloaded it yesterday, and it took me about 10 minutes to find the
> right place. "Please excuse our dust" is all very well, but the
> present interface is cripplingly hard to navigate around!
You're right. It's very confusing:
Start at www.cvshome.org
Click "CVS downloads"; it takes you to:
/servlets/ProjectDownloadList [I omit the domain from now on]
Says "please excuse our dust"
Click "Actual download pages"; it takes you to:
/downloads.html
Says in <h3> type: "CVS Source Distribution" with
a link "Get it". Click that link; it takes you to:
/servlets/ProjectSource
Which tells how to get the sources via CVS, but also
has a "Download" button. Click that; it takes
you BACK to:
/servlets/ProjectDownloadList
The way to actually navigate to the source tarballs is to click
on the "All platforms" button on /downloads.html.
To people looking for CVS source tarballs: the URL is
http://ftp.cvshome.org/
To the site maintainers, may I suggest the following cleanup:
- On /downloads.html, change the text for the "All platforms"
link (bottom line of the table in "CVS Binaries" to something
like "All platforms (sources and binaries)". [The link
itself is arguably "misfiled", since it's not just to
binaries, but fixing that is part of the larger redesign;
labelling it more clearly, while leaving it in place, is a
helpful temporary fix].
- On the result page from /servlets/ProjectSource, in the top
section, "Project Source: ccvs", make the "Download" link
point to http://ftp.cvshome.org/, instead of back to
/servlets/ProjectDownloadList.
- It'd help to add an explanatory sentence to the same section
of /servlets/ProjectSource, saying what "ccvs" is. Looks to
me as though that's the internal CVS module name for the
standard CVS source tree, but how could a new user be
expected to guess that? Or even better, drop the extra "c",
which is of no interest, and fix the capitalization, making
the section heading say what it means: "Project Source: CVS".
Obviously, the "ccvs" must remain as the module name in the
instructions for doing CVS checkouts, and in the link HREFs.
- "ccvs" should be ADDED to the WinCVS instructions. Point (5)
says "Enter project module name and click OK". Which project
module name is that? People now have to read the
command-line section -- and already know enough about CVS to
understand it -- to figure that out. Change the wording to
"Enter `ccvs' and click OK" (or whatever the right
incantation is from WinCVS :-) This is after all the *CVS*
download page, not generic documentation for WinCVS.
It should only take a few minutes to make these changes (less
time than it's taken me to describe them :-), so even if they're
temporary patches that'll disappear in the redesign, I think
they'd be helpful.
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