can't get Gnus to use tsl/ssl

[Gijs Hillenius]

Hello

I've been trying to get my gnus to use tls/ssl for smtp ... but I can't
seem to get it right. When sending mail, my mail server shows the
message was just thrown out there without authentication

P=esmtp

I would expect to see

P=esmtpsa X=TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16 A=plain_saslauthd_server:gijs

or something to that effect... like other mail clients do when told to
use tls/ssl

It probably something I overlook... but what/where?
 
I've been going over .gnus line by line, checked again and again the
various variables, changed the order of smtp/tls config lines, commented
out lines, and so on, but to no avail.

It is almost as if something is overriding the .gnus settings. Yet when
I check the variables, they are set as in the .gnus

from my .gnus

(setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems
(setq smtpmail-debug-verb t)

(setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
      message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)

(setq smtpmail-auth-credentials  "~/.smtp-authinfo"
      smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("mail.hillenius.net" "587" nil nil))
      starttls-extra-arguments '("--debug" "2" "--insecure" "--verbose")
      smtpmail-default-smtp-server "mail.hillenius.net"
      smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.hillenius.net"
      smtpmail-smtp-service 587
      smtpmail-local-domain nil)



in .smtp-authinfo
machine mailserver port 587 login gijs password mypassword

trace from a simple test email

220 hillenius.net ESMTP Exim 4.69 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:28:11 +0200
EHLO bufo-sapiens
250-hillenius.net Hello bufo-sapiens.local [172.16.2.12]
250-SIZE 52428800
250-PIPELINNG
250-STARTTLS
250 HELP
MAIL FROM:<gijs@hillenius.net> SIZE=538
250 OK
RCPT TO:<recipient@of.test.email>


I would think I should get TLS/SSL messages following 250-STARTTLS




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