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Re: L4-Hurd; denial of service in the memory architecture


From: Marcus Brinkmann
Subject: Re: L4-Hurd; denial of service in the memory architecture
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:56:49 +0100
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 03:24:55PM -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> Yes, but if you are sharing a capability with an untrusted task, and
> that task suddenly has the ability to impersonate you to someone else in
> that it can allocate frames that count against your quota, then you have
> permission leakage.

Then don't share the capability.  It's that simple.

> Certainly you would want that task to access THAT
> memory, but you certainly would not want that task to be able to
> allocate more memory against your quota.

We will have a way to share memory securely with another task.  I am not
sure how exactly it is done at a syntactical level (ie, which kind of cap is
passed with which operations).  Surely the semantics have (and largely are)
defined in the Right Way.

> Why does the capability to
> read or write a container also permit expansion of the container?

I am not even sure the details are set in stone at that level.  Take this
stuff with a grain of salt.  The design, in particular the design of the VM
subsystem, is not exactly finished.


Thanks,
Marcus

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