Re: How to add confinement to the Hurd?

[Marcus Brinkmann]

At Sun, 30 Apr 2006 18:24:19 -0400,
"Jonathan S. Shapiro" <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 22:29 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > At Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:29:28 +0200,
> > Pierre THIERRY <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > > 2) If someone implements [confinement] will it be integrated in the Hurd, 
> > > even
> > > if disabled by default?
> > 
> > This doesn't even make sense if the issue were not contentious.
> 
> I believe that Pierre is asking "If someone implements it, will the Hurd
> designers reject integrating it because of politics?" (Please note:
> Marcus himself described this as a decision motivated by the politics of
> ownership).
> 
> I think this is a perfectly legitimate question. What is your response?

You said in another mail:

> I do not believe that
> true confinement can be added to the system later in any practical
> sense. Architecting it out is, for all practical purposes, banning it.

I said, many times now, that I do not know a legitimate use case that
is relevant to the GNU Hurd.  I have put up a challenge to find one.

Assuming that no legitimate use case is found, and that you are right
that introducing this feature means a fundamental shift in the
over-all system design, then the answer is clearly that the patch
would be rejected for technical reasons, independent of any political
evaluation.

Thanks,
Marcus