Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Open Knowledge Policies: Science in EU

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 16 de octubre de 2015 17:44:16 GMT+01:00, "Andrés Muñiz Piniella" 
<a75576@alumni.tecnun.es> escribió:
>El 16 de octubre de 2015 17:16:19 GMT+01:00, Pen-Yuan Hsing
><penyuanhsing@gmail.com> escribió:
>>Thanks Bruno, great article!
>>
>
>Yes thanks! Exactly kind of thing I was looking for. I have to read it.
>
>>Two quick questions about the article:
>>
>>(1) In it it said: "The cost of editing for a typical paper is between
>>1 
>>percent and 3 percent of the cost of funding the research to produce 
>>it." -> Is there a source for this statement? I'd love to see it. 
>>Because I can use the actual data to talk to others about this
>problem.
>>
>I have not read context.
>I am sure this dependent of the field. But one can imagine that out of
>a 100 days  work in science staff time at least 1 day spent writhing it
>will be spent writting the paper. And no more than 10. Review should
>take half the time (or less) and typesetting editing is fairly
>automatic with tex templates and guidance for authours how to send info
>e.g. figure1.png and not Figure0.png
>
>>(2) It also said: "the word "open" had the last laugh: influential 
>>campaigners for "open access" subsequently dropped freedom to 
>>redistribute from their goals." -> Is there a current, standard 
>>definition of "open access"? Does someone have a link? Sounds like the
>
>>current "open access" is like "open source", if so is there an 
>>equivalent term that's like Free Software?
>>
>
>In the intro here (sorry don't know where, I'm in the move) 
>http://www.jpi-climate.eu/publications/documents/10862501/JPI-Climate-Guidelines-on-Open-Knowledge-extended-version
>There was a better framing of what it meant. In the jpi climate
>context.
>

[Off topic as not strictly software related but I will pull on the 'truism']
The document above refers to this definition 
http://opendefinition.org/od/2.0/en/index.html which includes 
redistribution/sharing might not be perfect but a step forward from 2001? 


>>Thank you!
>>
>>On 16/10/15 16:32, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
>>> Hello Andrés!
>>>
>>> Em Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:54:31 +0100
>>> Andrés Muñiz Piniella <a75576@alumni.tecnun.es> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Next week there is a symposium that will be held in Viena
>>>> registration seems to be still open [2] to discuss policies on open
>>>> knowledge.
>>>
>>> Just want to point out the related RMS' article:
>>>
>>>    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/push-copyright-aside.html

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