Re: libtool wrapper: mingw32ce does not support errno

[Vincent Torri]

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Eric Blake wrote:

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> According to Vincent Torri on 10/9/2008 12:22 AM:
> > > You've gone this far now, how about you try to redo the patch based on
> > > the comment above, then try to write a ChangeLog entry for it, too, and
> > > then we look at it again?  I'm sure you can do it!
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> > done, but seriously, you can do it too...
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> Ralf is right - the point of open source is that anyone should be able to
> scratch their own itch.  We don't have unlimited time, so the more work
> you do in scratching your itch, the easier it makes our job to just
> include your patch rather than repeat the work for something that is not
> scratching our itch.  By encouraging you to submit better patches, we are
> trying to empower you, rather than doing it all ourselves.

And you think that I have plenty of time ? I'm trying to fix problems in 
cegcc and libtool to make my lib (actually 6 libs) to run on Windows ce. 
All the time spent in fixing bugs in libtool and cegcc are time not spent 
in coding on those libs. Just for a 2 lines patch in config, i have waited 
several months. The first mail i've sent about problems in mingw32ce was 
sent mid september, which means that i'm waiting for some mails to be 
answered (not problems fixed, just answers of mails !) for almost 1 month. 
Some users complain that the libs are not very easy to be compiled. 
Hopefully, those libs are also open source so i can argue that i have no 
dead line.

> Personally, I've never even tried compiling for mingw32ce; not even Cygwin
> is brave enough to support a limited platform, since it is primarily for
> embedded systems and not broad-scale development.  You have the most
> expertise with this platform, so if we are going to support it, we need a
> lot of effort from you.

I'm not an expert, nor on the libtool side (i don't understand more than 
1% of the ltmain.sh script) nor a cegcc one. cegcc devs don't look at 
libtool ML, same for libtool devs wrt the cegcc ML. I can understand that. 
But I can also expect that some people from libtool and cegcc projects can 
help me

Right now, on libtool side, Ralf helped me a lot, and Bob gave me some 
advices. That's all.

I have mentioned several times some problems. If you look closely to some 
my last mails, I have asked "where to look in ltmainsh to fix problem 
*** ?". Did I have an answer ? No ! So, please, don't say that i'm not 
putting effort in fixing problems of libtool for the mingw32ce platform.

I'm not going to look at all the libtool code, I'm not going to fix all 
the problems myself and I'm expecting help from developpers of libtool 
because they know more libtool code than me. They can save my time, I can 
save your time (wrt my problems). If you think that open source projects 
means than devs don't have to help and users have to fix themselves their 
problems, then i would give up libtool and write my own Makefile. It would
be faster for me (it would take me less than 1 day to write all of them). 
But I think that it can be usefull for other people too to have support of 
the mingw32ce compiler in libtool.

Vincent Torri