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Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?
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Werner LEMBERG |
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Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text? |
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Wed, 28 Sep 2011 07:31:02 +0200 (CEST) |
>> * decrease the size of all accidentals in markups.
>
> I also think they are too big. The question is, how should we
> achieve that? Is there something like
> "musical-glyphs-font-size-when-used-in-markups"?
Good question. AFAIK, there isn't such a predefined scaling value
which might be a good thing in general.
>> In fact, the accidentals shouldn't overshoot the height of a normal text:
>> not higher than 'f' and not lower than 'g'.
>
> Yes, approximately.
I think the question is rather where to position the glyph's baseline.
>> It would be interesting to see trailing accidentals if combined with
>> digits from a figured bass. Maybe we should have a third, different
>> looking set of accidentals?
>
> Maybe, but i'd prefer to avoid this if possible for the sake of
> simplicity.
Mhmm, we are using Metafont! Given the many different noteheads,
controlled by a bunch of meta-variables, I don't see a reason to not
do the same for accidentals, if necessary. Admittedly, this isn't an
urgent issue, but it was you who has started this thread :-)
> There are two different ways we would like to align accidentals [...]
>
> The first method (for use with text) should be implemented by moving
> the baseline of the glyphs, i think.
Yes.
> For the second method, i see two possibilities:
> - use bounding box (adjusted a bit), i.e. the bottom of bounding box
> becomes baseline (i hope its possible?); see attachment 2,
No. As soon as other characters are involved, the first method should
be used.
> - vertically center the accidental on parent grob.
No. There is a similar problem in TeX, namely to align a complex
inline mathematical formula along the text line around it. The only
solution which really works is to align the baselines. Centering
glyphs gives horrible results; for example, just look at the way how
Wikipedia displays formulae (if converted to little inline gif images)
if you select a different text size for the text.
Werner
- do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/09/12
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Werner LEMBERG, 2011/09/13
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/09/20
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Werner LEMBERG, 2011/09/21
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, address@hidden, 2011/09/21
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/09/26
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Werner LEMBERG, 2011/09/27
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Werner LEMBERG, 2011/09/27
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/09/27
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?,
Werner LEMBERG <=
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/09/28
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Reinhold Kainhofer, 2011/09/28
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Werner LEMBERG, 2011/09/28
- Re: do we want special versions of the accidentals for use with text?, Janek Warchoł, 2011/09/28