Re: address@hidden Lilypond Comments!

[svoboda]

Han-Wen Nienhuys  <address@hidden> writes:

> address@hidden writes:
> > -> Another problem is enterying lyrics to a melody, often the lyric
> > syllables don't match up to the melody notes, and I have to tweak the
> > melody or lyrics. Any attempts to solve this problem? I have several
> > possible solutions, but don't know what is good/possible/easy.
> > 
> > ---> Is there a way to intersperse the lyrics and melody? Right now
> > lyrics are in a /lyrics context separate from the melody, so I have to
> > check by hand that the lyrics matches up to the melody.
> 
> you could do
> 
> 
>       <<
>       \context Lyrics=myLyrics { \skip 1*2 }
>       \new Staff {
>        << c4
>           \context Lyrics=myLyrics \lyrics { blah } >>
> 
>       >> 
>        << d4
>           \context Lyrics=myLyrics \lyrics { blah } >>
>         >>
>       } >>
> 
> but  I doubt whether you would like it.

Not if I have to intersperse one note per lyrics context. If I could
alternate between a line of notes & a line of lyrics (or even a
measure of notes per lyrics), that would be acceptable.


Erik Sandberg <address@hidden> writes:

> On Tuesday 22 June 2004 00.21, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> > address@hidden writes:
> > > One could attack this problem with another Emacs patch...which would
> > > give you the absolute octave for any note under the cursor. Again, has
> > > anyone attacked this problem, or should I tackle it?
> 
> Just in case you didn't notice: There is a command \octave in lilypond, which 
> addresses the same problem, but isn't as good as what you suggest.

Hmm. I just RTFM'd the \octave command...it might be good enough for
me to use (I didn't understand it well enough before). Perhaps if I
use \octave (or =-style octave checks) once every couple of measures,
I'll get better results.

> > > -> Another problem is enterying lyrics to a melody, often the lyric
> > > syllables don't match up to the melody notes, and I have to tweak the
> > > melody or lyrics. Any attempts to solve this problem? I have several
> > > possible solutions, but don't know what is good/possible/easy.
> 
> I don't understand.. do you have an example? I have not been able to spot any 
> real example where \lyricsto is not enough.

I'm not at liberty to disclose the music I'm transcribing...but
suffice to say it is rock music (chords, melody, 2 verses). Since it's
rock, the verses, although they go to the same music, they don't
exactly match for syllables, so sometimes verse 1 has an extra
syllable / note that verse 2 likes, and verse visa :)

I also have some music with only one verse. I guess the problem is
that, in the Lilypond format the notes go 'here' and the lyrics go
'over there', and its hard to make sure they are aligned properly. A
music-notation GUI wouldn't have this problem, since the lyrics are
always physically close to, and aligned with, the notes. Not being
able to keep the lyrics with the notes makes lyrics-note misalignment
possible, and for me it's a big problem.

> > > ---> I can't seem to put measure breaks '|' into lyrics...wouldn't
> > > that be a useful feature to add to the language? Or can it be done
> > > somehow?
> >
> > This should be possible, but I recall there being bugs. Erik S. knows
> > the details.
> 
> It is possible to use | in lyrics. I do it all the time. What you have to 
> observe, is that you should see | as a prefix operator. It can only be added 
> right before syllables that are sung on the first beat of each bar. This is 
> different from other notations, since bars can start and end with rests.

Aha. Most of my measures begin with a rest...that explains it.


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