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Tie behavior


From: Shamus
Subject: Tie behavior
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:49:16 -0700
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Hi all,

First of all, let me say that I'm very impressed with lilypond and I
appreciate all of the hard work that the developers have poured into it.
And with that, here's some criticism: ;-)

After much head-scratching and searching of the lilypond mailing list
archives, I've failed to come up with a decent workaround to the
following problem (this is with 2.0.3):

I have a piece of music where a chord is tied to some notes with
differing time values:

<c fs a>-- ~ << { a'2 } \\ { <c, fs>4 <c fs> } >>

Now I know about Mats' workaround, and it works, sort of:

<c fs a>-- ~ << { a'2 } \\ \context Voice = mn { <c, fs>4 <c fs> } >>

The only problem with this approach is that lily only connects the two
lower notes (which makes sense, that's what I told her to do :-p). You
can, of course, do this:

<c fs a>-- ~ << \context Voice = mn { a'2 } \\ \context Voice = mn { <c,
fs>4 <c fs> } >>

But then it combines the half note head onto the quarter notes' vertical
line--most definitely *not* what I want. Now I know that I could back up
the split a little, but I *want* the chord notes that come before the
tie to all be on the same vertical line...

Now I may be a little naive when it comes to lily's internals, but it
seems to me that even though the notes that follow the tie are in
different voice contexts that lily *should* be able to tell that they
are tied to the preceeding note/chord notes very easily without having
to make the user jump through hoops as per above--after all, they are in
the same \notes{} context. Is this possible? Or would it require major
changes in lily's internal structure?

Again, this is with 2.0.3, but judging from what I've seen (and not
seen) I don't think it has been changed at all. I could be wrong about
that. ;-)

- -- Shamus
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