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Re: Little problem with lilypond (Modified by Maurits Lamers)


From: Maurits Lamers
Subject: Re: Little problem with lilypond (Modified by Maurits Lamers)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:02:01 +0200

Hi Ruud, hi all,

In fact I derived my code from the examples given in the 2.2 documentation... I don't understand why it cannot be done in this way. I think it completely logical this way.

Besides that, I have been trying to put the declaration of the lyric context outside the staff context, but if I use \lyricsto, it just won't see the Voice contexts I declared.

By the way, I find it very difficult to get a grip on the scripting concept of lilypond. The documentation comes in two flavors, namely very basic or very technical.

I think it may be a nice idea to create a more clear scripting guide, because
how to work with the different types of context is unclear to me.
Since I am a programmer myself, I normally expect myself to be able to understand the scripting concept
by reading the documentation and writing code in it.

From the beginning I have been confused by the documentation. I just can't get a grip on how and what a context is. The script seems object-oriented, but it doesn't work like object-oriented code.

To me, it is completely unclear why I have to define lyrics outside of a Staff context, because in print it is part of a staff.
So I expect it to be part of the staff context.
It may be a TeX issue, but I think it strange to let that influence the logical structure of the script.

Maybe someone can enlighten me :)

greets

Maurits



Ruud van Silfhout heeft op zondag, 17 okt 2004 om 19:08 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven:

Hello Maurits,

I recognized the problem and I knew it had to do with the way you define
your staffs and your lyrics. So, I rearranged it a little bit and that
works.
The way I read the documentation, the lyrics should be
created outside the staff context. and you defined, as far as I could see
it,
a Voice context and a lyrics context in a Voice; I'am amazed it worked
anyway in the original situation

Have fun!
Ruud van Silfhout

----- Original Message -----
From: "Maurits Lamers" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:48 PM
Subject: Little problem with lilypond (Modified by Maurits Lamers)


Hi all,

I run into a problem setting music for choir.
I searched all archives, all wiki pages but nothing turned up.

When you are setting music for choir, you sometimes have a first part
that is for one voice only and repeated a few times (due to multiple
verses).
After that the verse is repeated, but this time with an extra voice
written to it.

The setting of the music is not a problem, but when you are trying to
add lyrics there occurs something strange.

The song in question is "We wish you a merry Christmas". I wrote a
simple second voice to the last verse.
Setting the music in lilypond was not difficult, so was setting the
lyrics for the first three verses.

I used a \new Staff to set those first three verses.

To set the last verse, I used a new Choirstaff. Inside this Choirstaff
I define two new staves.
Because every voice in every staff has its own lyrics, I define the
lyrics in each staff.

What happens is this: If you use the code as showed below, a new staff
is created without a key signature and the lyrics are aligned
correctly, namely directly below the notes to which the lyrics belong
to.

If you include the key signature ( \key g \major ) (like in the second
staff definition) the lyrics are misplaced, namely under the second
staff

I included both versions, namely with key signature definition and
without. I include both the .ly files.
You can also find all files at http://www2.hku.nl/~maurits/lilypond/

The files with lyricsgoed are with the lyrics aligned correctly.
The files with lyricsverkeerd are with the key signature and with the
misplaced lyrics.

I use Lilypond 2.2.5 for Mac OS X and PC and both render the same kind
of problem.

Anyone recognize this problem ??

greets

Maurits Lamers

\new ChoirStaff {
<<
\new Staff {
\notes \relative c' {
\new Voice {
  <<
  \context Voice = melodietwee \relative c' {
  s4 | s 2.*15 | s2

  d4 | g g8 a g fis | e4 e e | a4 a8 b a g | fis4 d d | b'4 b8 c b a
|
g4 e d8 d | e4 a fis | g2 d4 | g g g | fis2 fis4 | g fis e | d2 a'4
|
b4 a8 a g g | d'4 d, d8 d | e4 a fis | b g c | a d b
  }

  \lyrics \lyricsto "melodietwee" \new Lyrics {
  We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
  mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
  and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you and
your kin.
  We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new year.
  }


  }

}
}
\new Staff {
\notes \relative c'{
\key g \major
\new Voice {
<<
\context Voice = stemtwee \relative c' {
s4 | s 2.*15 | s2

d4 | g, b d | e e8 d c b | a4 c e | fis fis8 e d c | b4 d fis |
g g8 fis e d | c4 a d | g,2 d'4 | g,8 a b c d e | fis4. e8 d4 |
b2 cis4 | d2 a'4 | b a g | d' d, d | e a fis | b g c | a d b
}
\lyrics \lyricsto "stemtwee" \new Lyrics {
We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
  mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
  and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you and
your kin.
  We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new year.
}


}
}

}

}








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  \new ChoirStaff {
<<
  \new Staff {
    \context Voice = melodietwee \notes \relative c' {
    \key g \major \time 3/4 \partial 4 s4 | s 2.*15 | s2
d4 | g g8 a g fis | e4 e e | a4 a8 b a g | fis4 d d | b'4 b8 c b a | g4 e d8 d | e4 a fis | g2 d4 | g g g | fis2 fis4 | g fis e | d2 a'4 |
    b4 a8 a g g | d'4 d, d8 d | e4 a fis | b g c | a d b
    }
  }
    \lyrics \lyricsto "melodietwee" \new Lyrics {
    We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
    mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you and your
kin.
    We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new year.
    }
  \new Staff {
    \context Voice = stemtwee \notes \relative c' {
      \key g \major \time 3/4 \partial 4 s4 | s 2.*15 | s2
      d4 | g, b d | e e8 d c b | a4 c e | fis fis8 e d c | b4 d fis |
      g g8 fis e d | c4 a d | g,2 d'4 | g,8 a b c d e | fis4. e8 d4 |
      b2 cis4 | d2 a'4 | b a g | d' d, d | e a fis | b g c | a d b
    }

  }
  \lyrics \lyricsto "stemtwee" \new Lyrics {
      We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
      mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you and your
kin.
      We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new year.
    }

}




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