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Re: Ineffective \override


From: Mats Bengtsson
Subject: Re: Ineffective \override
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:35:54 +0200
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Don't forget that you can use the predefined macro \hideNotes
to obtain many of these settings, see the section on "Hidden Notes".

   /Mats

Fairchild wrote:
Mats -

I had scoured the documentation prior to posting, but missed the thread
Werner initiated.

For posterity, here is a list of things that work in v 2.4.3:

   \override NoteHead           #'transparent = ##t
   \override Stem               #'transparent = ##t
   \override Dots               #'transparent = ##t
   \override Beam               #'transparent = ##t
   \override Rest               #'transparent = ##t
   \override Accidental         #'transparent = ##t
   \override Slur               #'transparent = ##t
   \override PhrasingSlur       #'transparent = ##t
   \override Hairpin            #'transparent = ##t
   \override TextScript         #'transparent = ##t
   \override Script             #'transparent = ##t
   \override DynamicText        #'transparent = ##t
   \override Staff.BarLine      #'transparent = ##t
   \override NoteHead           #'no-ledgers  = ##t

The last two may not be buggy, but I agree with Werner that they are fishy,
and with your characterization as tricky.  Certainly they are inconsistent
from a user view.  I endorse Werner's plea for documentation.

Thanks for the help.

                                                 - Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:address@hidden Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:38 AM
To: Fairchild
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: Ineffective \override




Fairchild wrote:

Mats -

Thanks for the response.  Maybe my fog is beginning to lift.

The first link you gave says the syntax is:
\override <context>.<layout object> #'<layout property> [ = #<value>]

Experimenting demonstrates <context>. isn't always required, though it is required for Staff.BarLine - why is still hidden in the fog.


I really recommend you to read the full chapter on "Changing defaults". The
answer to this specific question is in the section "Layout tunings within
contexts" with reference to "Changing context properties on the fly".


Staff.LedgerLineSpanner doesn't seem to work, though http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-i
nterna
ls/Ledger_005fline_005fengraver.html#Ledger_005fline_005fengraver implies

it

ought to.


This is indeed a tricky special case. See
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-04/msg00133.html
and the other emails of that thread to learn more.

    /Mats


                                     - Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:55 AM
To: Fairchild
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: Ineffective \override


Hints:
- Which of the steps outlined in

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Const
ructin
g-a-tweak.html#Constructing-a-tweak
  did you follow?

- Take a look at the last example of http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Commo
n-twea
ks.html#Common-tweaks

   /Mats


Fairchild wrote:


Ver 2.4.3, Cygwin, XP question: Which of the following \override have
no effect?

 \override NoteHead           #'transparent = ##t
 \override Stem               #'transparent = ##t
 \override Dots               #'transparent = ##t
 \override Beam               #'transparent = ##t
 \override Rest               #'transparent = ##t
 \override Accidental         #'transparent = ##t
 \override Slur               #'transparent = ##t
 \override PhrasingSlur       #'transparent = ##t
 \override Hairpin            #'transparent = ##t
 \override TextScript         #'transparent = ##t
 \override Script             #'transparent = ##t
 \override DynamicText        #'transparent = ##t
 \override BarLine            #'transparent = ##t
 \override LedgerLineSpanner  #'transparent = ##t

Answer: The last two, BarLine and LedgerLineSpanner.

BarLine works if changed to Staff.BarLine

Why?  Don't know.  Bugs?

                                   - Bruce
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