RE: Ineffective \override

[Fairchild]

Is there a way to look inside macros?

                              - Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:36 AM
To: Fairchild
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: Ineffective \override


Don't forget that you can use the predefined macro \hideNotes to obtain many
of these settings, see the section on "Hidden Notes".

    /Mats

Fairchild wrote:
> Mats -
> 
> I had scoured the documentation prior to posting, but missed the 
> thread Werner initiated.
> 
> For posterity, here is a list of things that work in v 2.4.3:
> 
>    \override NoteHead           #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Stem               #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Dots               #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Beam               #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Rest               #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Accidental         #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Slur               #'transparent = ##t
>    \override PhrasingSlur       #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Hairpin            #'transparent = ##t
>    \override TextScript         #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Script             #'transparent = ##t
>    \override DynamicText        #'transparent = ##t
>    \override Staff.BarLine      #'transparent = ##t
>    \override NoteHead           #'no-ledgers  = ##t
> 
> The last two may not be buggy, but I agree with Werner that they are 
> fishy, and with your characterization as tricky.  Certainly they are 
> inconsistent from a user view.  I endorse Werner's plea for 
> documentation.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
>                                                  - Bruce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:38 AM
> To: Fairchild
> Cc: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: Ineffective \override
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Fairchild wrote:
> 
>>Mats -
>>
>>Thanks for the response.  Maybe my fog is beginning to lift.
>>
>>The first link you gave says the syntax is:
>>\override <context>.<layout object> #'<layout property> [ = #<value>]
>>
>>Experimenting demonstrates <context>. isn't always required, though it
>>is required for Staff.BarLine - why is still hidden in the fog.
> 
> 
> I really recommend you to read the full chapter on "Changing 
> defaults". The answer to this specific question is in the section 
> "Layout tunings within contexts" with reference to "Changing context 
> properties on the fly".
> 
> 
>>Staff.LedgerLineSpanner doesn't seem to work, though
>>http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-i
>>nterna
>>ls/Ledger_005fline_005fengraver.html#Ledger_005fline_005fengraver implies
> 
> it
> 
>>ought to.
> 
> 
> This is indeed a tricky special case. See 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-04/msg00133.html
> and the other emails of that thread to learn more.
> 
>     /Mats
> 
> 
>>                                      - Bruce
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:address@hidden
>>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:55 AM
>>To: Fairchild
>>Cc: address@hidden
>>Subject: Re: Ineffective \override
>>
>>
>>Hints:
>>- Which of the steps outlined in
>> 
>>http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Const
>>ructin
>>g-a-tweak.html#Constructing-a-tweak
>>   did you follow?
>>
>>- Take a look at the last example of
>>http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Commo
>>n-twea
>>ks.html#Common-tweaks
>>
>>    /Mats
>>
>>
>>Fairchild wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ver 2.4.3, Cygwin, XP question: Which of the following \override have 
>>>no effect?
>>>
>>>  \override NoteHead           #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override Stem               #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override Dots               #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override Beam               #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override Rest               #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override Accidental         #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override Slur               #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override PhrasingSlur       #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override Hairpin            #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override TextScript         #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override Script             #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override DynamicText        #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override BarLine            #'transparent = ##t
>>>  \override LedgerLineSpanner  #'transparent = ##t
>>>
>>>Answer: The last two, BarLine and LedgerLineSpanner.
>>>
>>>BarLine works if changed to Staff.BarLine
>>>
>>>Why?  Don't know.  Bugs?
>>>
>>>                                    - Bruce 
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>bug-lilypond mailing list
>>>address@hidden
>>>http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
>>
>>
> 

-- 
=============================================
        Mats Bengtsson
        Signal Processing
        Signals, Sensors and Systems
        Royal Institute of Technology
        SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
        Sweden
        Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463                         
         Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
        Email: address@hidden
        WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe
=============================================