Re: accent not working as expected/desired

[Kenward Vaughan]

(I tried emailing Mats directly, but his email address failed.)

On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 01:27:05PM +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> The positioning is different for different articulations, according
> to normal typesetting practice (that's the intention, at least).
> For example, \accent, \staccato and \tenuto go into the stave, whereas
> \turn and \portato stay outside the stave, just to mention a few.

I appreciate your comment about "normal typesetting practice," as I
certainly have little experience with scores of almost any sort (the
piece I am working on is my first regular one since I started playing). 
I have been following only what is on the piece itself, which gives the
positioning I mentioned (below the stave).

Perhaps the fact that it is a very old first position piece for a
relative beginner (full of fingerings as well, which I tossed out :)
explains the more exposed positioning of that one articulation.  ???

> The easiest way to break this convention and typeset an \accent outside
> the stave is to use \markup, just as you tried. However, inside a
> \markup{...}, you can only use the commands listed in
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Overview-of-text-markup-commands.html#Overview-of-text-markup-commands
> To access the accent symbol, you have to use the \musicglyph command:
> c2. _\markup{\musicglyph #"scripts-sforzato"}
> 
> To avoid collisions between fingerings and slurs, change the padding
> property for the fingering, see
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Common-tweaks.html#Common-tweaks
> for inspiration.
> 
>    /Mats


Thank you very much for the links and suggestions you gave, Mats.  As
silly as it may sound, is there such a thing as a book or (prefereably)
Web-accessible document about these conventions or other standards?

Cheers,


Kenward



> Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >I'm a 1 year cellist who decided to learn lilypond as the best way to
> >rewrite a piece I'm learning.  The original is too compact for my eyes
...
> >with the accent on the first.  The specific line I wrote in my file is
> >
> >c2.~_\accent c2.\bar "|."  % 79 and 80
> >
> >This is bass clef, as expected, and the above notes stand a line above
> >the normal staff.  The accent mark insists on moving into the staff
> >lines, so I assume that its position is tied to the note, with no
> >regard for the staff's position?
...
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