Re: Custom page size in LaTeX causes lilypond-book to produce bad output.

[Michael Haynie]

Great -- that fixes the problem nicely.  Thanks for the help.

It might avoid some frustration for others if the 2.7 fix were 
back-ported to 2.6 -- I have no idea how easy or hard that might be.  
Even a note in the documentation on latex-book would be helpful.

As to vpage v.s. vmargin -- I actually use vmargin normally.  However, 
when building this example, I used "The LaTeX Companion" as a reference 
for _standard packages_.  The copy I have lists vpage, but not vmargin, 
so I made the change for the test.

The project driving this is a little songbook.  I use LaTeX to setup a 
title page, TOC, and index, and assign song numbers.  The pages are 
sized so that when they are scaled and rotated for 2-up on letter, they 
fill the page nicely, leaving a center trough for a fold. I run the 
postscript through psbook to arrange the pages for signature assembly.  
I then print it two-sided, fold in the center, and stitch (or staple) 
the pages together.  Works pretty well up to 48 pages or so.  With more 
pages than that, you either need to use multiple signatures, or stop 
hand-binding :).

The steps for the whole process look like this:

lilypond-book -f latex --psfonts  book.ltx
latex \\nonstopmode\\input book.tex
makeindex book
latex \\nonstopmode\\input book.tex
dvips -T 8.5in,13.13in -Ppdf -h book.psfonts -o book.ps book.dvi
psbook book.ps | psnup -2 -m0.25in -pletter -W8.5in -H13.13in > 
book-signature.ps
ps2pdf book-signature.ps book-signature.pdf

If I recall correctly, I had some difficulty convincing dvips (or maybe 
psnup) to work with small pages.  Larger pages worked fine.

On Nov 15, 2005, at 8:26 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

> It turns out that there is a "bug" in verson 2.6 that has been solved 
> long time
> ago in version 2.7, so I had forgot about it. Just add the following 
> somewhere
> before \begin{document}:
>
> \newcommand{\betweenLilyPondSystem}[1]{\linebreak}
>
> May I ask why you use \usepackage{vpage} and not \usepackage{vmargin}
> (which is what is loaded anyway)?
>
>   /Mats
>
>
> Michael Haynie wrote:
>
> > As requested, attached are 4 files: two source files representing a 
> > broken and working example (nearly identical, as a diff will show, 
> > and the resulting output.  Both files were built using
> >     lilypond-book -f latex --psfonts <filename>
> > followed by invocations of latex, dvips, etc.
> >
> > Like this:
> >
> > lilypond-book -f latex --psfonts working.ltx
> > latex \\nonstopmode\\input working.tex
> > dvips -T 8.5in,13.13in -Ppdf -h working.psfonts -o working.ps 
> > working.dvi
> > ps2pdf working.ps working.pdf
> > rm working.tex working.ps working.dvi
> >
> > Obviously, the examples could be accomplished more simply, but then I 
> > wouldn't be able to use LaTeX's excellent TOC, chapter, index, etc. 
> > functionality.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 14, 2005, at 4:43 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> >
> > > I cannot repeat the problem. Could you please send a small but  
> > > complete example
> > > file that illustrates the problem to the mailing list?
> > > Personally, I have always used the geometry package to get custom 
> > > page
> > > sizes in LaTeX.
> > >
> > > Also, if the only purpose of using lilypond-book is to get the page  
> > > size, I
> > > hope you realize that it can be done also within LilyPond. Some  
> > > additional
> > > information has been added in the manual for version 2.7, that also  
> > > should be
> > > relevant to you, see
> > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/ 
> > > Paper-size.html#Paper-size
> > >
> > >  /Mats
> > >
> > > Michael Haynie wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greetings:
> > > >
> > > > In Lilypond 2.2, I used to LaTeX with the vmargin package to define 
> > > > a  custom paper size for a 1/2 size songbook.  With lilypond 2.6, 
> > > > simply  including the vmargin  package ( just \include[vmargin] -- 
> > > > it's part  of a typical TeX installation) causes lilypond-book to 
> > > > produce a  score with the first measure of the first system placed 
> > > > up beside the  title block for the piece.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone found a way to change page dimensions in this way?
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know what might be tripping Lilypond up?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >     Mats Bengtsson
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> > >     Signals, Sensors and Systems
> > >     Royal Institute of Technology
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> --
> =============================================
>         Mats Bengtsson
>         Signal Processing
>         Signals, Sensors and Systems
>         Royal Institute of Technology
>         SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
>         Sweden
>         Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463                         
>        Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
>         Email: address@hidden
>         WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe
> =============================================