Re: "Controlled aleatorism" notation

[Andrzej Kopec]

Han-Wen Nienhuys writes:
 > > 
 > >     //         \\
 > > ----||--|-------||                    |-----
 > > ----||.-|---|--.||                    |-----
 > > ----||.-|---|--.||~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|-----
 > > ----||--o---|---||                    |-----
 > > ----||------o---||                    |-----
 > >     \\         //
 > > 
 > > 1. is there any more suitable grob for this purpose? 
 > 
 > for what? Brackets or the wavy line?

Sorry for lack of clearness. I meant brackets. I was looking for some graphical 
object
which can be aligned to edges of StaffSymbol independently to duration of 
current
note/rest/space. Rest seems to shift slightly to left if previous note-duration 
is
longer. some non-rhythmical object would suit here better, i think.

Of course - all these things can be done with extra-offset for every grob. But 
I want to
avoid that. 

 > 
 > > 
 > > 2. Is there any way to typeset spanner exactly from one place to another, 
 > > in manner that
 > >    it starts at \stopStaff and stops at \startStaff ?
 > 
 > why don't you change the number of stafflines to 1 and start a new 
 > staff? 

Sounds reasonable

 > Another option is to override the stencil callback for StaffSymbol.

this too

 > 
 > If you have problems with this, I can cook up a sponsored aleatoric 
 > example .ly , but I guess there will be lots of people eager to 
 > demonstrate their elite L1l33P0nd ski11z :)

They are my only hope. PEOPLE WITH ELITE LILY-SKILZ, where are you!!??! ;)


TB:
 > At least in the US, the popularity was due, IMO, to the fact that this
 > sort of thing can get you (at least the appearance of) some rhythmic
 > complexity without having to scatter a bunch of tuplets everywhere.

I would rather think of it as a coloristic effect than rhythmic complexity. On 
the other
hand why to write lots of (strange) tuplets which would be performed 
approximately? and on the other
other hand - very few people "unfold" trills... :) 

And at last: I believe this is available in lilypond?

Thanks for response,
Regards,
/ak/