Re: New user + notation queries

[Mats Bengtsson]

Eduardo Vieira wrote:

> Hello, I don't really understand what you want your score to look like about 
> those invisible notehead. Maybe you could post a small picture of what you 
> can 
> do using Finale. And we would see to the right solution. 
>
> Joseph wrote: 
>  
>
> > > > (2) In the second bar, you can see that there are sometimes rests in one 
> > > > voice while the other voice is playing.  What I want is, first, that the 
> > > > rests be invisible, but second, that there be short stems where the 
> > > > "notes" (or rests) would be.  I tried using s (as in "skip") but did not 
> > > > get any beams or stems. 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > That was an uncommon request! The best way I can think of to get the 
> > > stems but 
> > > no note heads is to use ordinary notes but make the note heads invisible: 
> > > \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t 
> > >      
> > Uncommon requests are my speciality, I'm very picky about how I want my 
> > scores to look! :-)  My instinctive thought would have been to do what I 
> > would do in Finale, which is first to request both beams and stems over 
> > rests, and then make the rests invisible.  But I would imagine the first 
> > part isn't possible...?  I saw from the manual that getting beams to 
> > extend over rests was supported, but saw nothing about adding stems in. 
> >
> > What frustrates me about the solution you propose is that it's a "cheat" 
> > that takes away from what I have already learned to love about Lilypond, 
> > its attempt to create correspondence between notation and the logical 
> > structure of the music. 
> >
> >    
Agreed! Maybe someone else has a bright idea, but my guess is that the only
way to get what you want without "cheating" is to implement it yourself or
sponsor Han-Wen to implement the feature.

> > The reason why I want this particular notation, btw, is that the passage 
> > is a mixed multiphonic/monophonic passage and I want to represent both 
> > the two voices and the continuous sound that results. 
> >    

> > > > (3) Is it possible to get alternative quarter-tone symbols?  In 
> > > > particular I don't like the 3/4-flat sign; I'd much rather have the 
> > > > combined backwards-flat plus ordinary flat "db" sign.  In other pieces I 
> > > > might want to use accidentals-with-arrows as sometimes that seems to be 
> > > > a preferable option. 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > You could try something like: 
> > >
> > > \once \override Accidental #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print 
> > > \once \override Accidental #' 
> > >      
> > OK.  There isn't a way to write into the setup once and for all, "the 
> > 3/4-flat accidental is ..." ? 
> >    
If you know how to program in Scheme, then you can make your own
little function that calls the default accidental printing function except
for 3/4 flats, where it does the equivalent to the solution above.
Then, just specify that function as the value of Accidental #'stencil.

> Maybe you can create a variable and add it to 
> share\lilypond\current\ly\property-init.ly 
>  
No no! Don't make changes in the installation. I can promise you that 
you will
forget to update everything the day you upgrade to a new version of 
LilyPond.

If you want your own set of macros, write them in a separate file that you
\include in the .ly files for your scores.

  /Mats