Re: triangle chord notation

[Paul Scott]

Eyolf Ostrem wrote:
> On Thu 03 August 2006 22:35, Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote:
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> > You'll hardly find a jazz fake book that does not use triangles somewhere
> > or always for M7, take a look at Aebersold, Hal Leonard, Sher, etc. 
> >     
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> Agreed - but that's jazz. In the contexts that I use - classical, rock, folk, 
> and ascii tabs - it's hardly ever used. 
>
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> > The "o" with a slash through it now, that is less widely known, most people
> > prefer to see "m7b5" instead, that one IS an abomination because so many
> > people dont notice that slash and play a diminished chord mistakenly.
> >     
>
> Agreed.
>
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> > The "o" with no slash for diminished and "+" for augmented 5th forms are
> > widely accepted though.
> >     
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> Yes, but (a) the "o" can mean the diminished fifth only,
Not correctly.  The circle always means fully diminished and the slashed 
circle means half diminished.  I agree that it is potentially confusing 
and this a good reason for using 7b9.
>  or the full 
> dim(7)chord. The latter is, in my experience, the most common usage. And (b) 
> on my tab site (dylanchords.com) I used to use them, for brevity, but I still 
> got so many questions about them ("What does E+ mean?), that I switched to 
> the more verbose Eaug. This could of course mainly be an indication of the 
> musical illiteracy among Dylan fans, but I think it's also an indication that 
> a more intuitive system is needed, because there are large user groups where 
> these symbols are not known and used.
>
> I'm not against having a system in Lilypond with all these symbols, but I find 
> it strange and unfortunate that there is no pre-defined alternative with the 
> standard (or next-to-standard) verbose forms: aug, dim, maj7, m7-5, 
> preferrably even the 'short-verbose' forms maj9, m9-5 (instead of m7/b5/9 - 
> strange order...), and the inconsistent o7 for the 'dim' chord. 
> The alternative setup to Ignatzek - how many of you have ever used it? Or seen 
> it in use? 
>   
I think it's clear that many of us would like this notation.  The 
default chord names are partially usable and I don't know who uses the 
alternate system.

Paul
> One last thing: why is it that only in the German forms can added bass notes 
> be in lower case? I find it invaluable for sight-playing to be able to 
> quickly distinguish between essential and accidental, and a notation like G/D 
> is less clear than G/d, in my opinion.
>
> Eyolf
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