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Re: Embedding lily pdfs in InDesign


From: fiëé visuëlle
Subject: Re: Embedding lily pdfs in InDesign
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:54:32 +0200

Am 2006-08-30 um 04:33 schrieb Trevor Bača:
Ah, I think this is what I'm messing up. I've been trying to install
the LilyPond fonts into OS X and it's proving to be *very* difficult.
I've mentioned my installation attempts in a thread Kieren started in
February (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-02/ msg00400.html)
but the short of the matter is that using OS X's FontBook to install
the several different sizes of Emmentaler has been frustrating.
FontBook shows all the sizes as being there, but InDesign will
recognize (and display in its Font menu) only 4 or 5 of the sizes. If
I delete all the Emmentaler fonts from the whatever/Fonts folder to
which FontBook writes, and then reinstall, then InDesign will see all
the sizes *until I quit InDesign and restart*, at which point InDesign
believes there're only 4 or 5 sizes again. Grrr ...

There are some nasty problems with Apples font management, it doesn't seem to register some font faces. Sometimes it helps to deactive the fonts and activate again, sometimes nothing helps...
Try Linotype's FontExplorer, it's free and better:
http://www.linotype.com/2006/tools.html
(I didn't try Emmentaler with it.)

Henning wrote:

FV > I regularly use LilyPond PDFs with InDesign (CS, CS2) and ConTeXt
and never had problems with those.

This gives me hope. But take a look at the attachments. The
"before.png" shows a bit of a lily-generated pdf as it comes out of
lily. Perfect. The "after.png" shows what happens when I place the
lily-generated pdf into InDesign and then export back out of InDesign
to make a new pdf. Yuck. It looks like the lines (staff lines, ledger
...
I'm assuming what *must* be going on here is that InDesign simply
isn't seeing some of the LilyPond fonts (like certain sizes of the
Emmentaler set) and so is substituting in a really ugly way. So maybe
what I really need help with is figuring out how to install "the"
LilyPond fonts under OS X.

LilyPond's PDFs have the fonts embedded, they don't need to be installed. I never experienced something similar with LilyPond PDFs (but sometimes with output from other programs that used Quicktime drawing routines).

BTW: I'm still using LilyPond 2.8.1 (didn't dare to try a newer version yet, because I had bad luck with some versions between 2.6 and 2.8.1). My machine is a G4/400 (PPC) with OSX 10.4.7
I don't think so, but perhaps it's a OSX/Intel problem?

You could send me a .ly and .pdf to try.

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fiëé visuëlle
Henning Hraban Ramm
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