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Re: problems with german umlauts
From: |
Jonathan Henkelman |
Subject: |
Re: problems with german umlauts |
Date: |
Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:31:24 +0000 (UTC) |
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Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) |
Mats Bengtsson <mats.bengtsson <at> ee.kth.se> writes:
>
> You are mistaken. ASCII only defines character codes up to 127, see for
> example http://www.asciitable.com/.
> What your table shows is probably Latin1 (ISO 8859-1).
>
> /Mats
Mats: FYI I am using an ascii table in my "little black pocket ref." which
does not differentiate between standard and extended table. Also I use the
one provided in MS Word. It allows you to pick between Unicode (various
subsets) ASCII hex and decimal, but it also does not differentiate between
extended and basic.
What I am hearing hear in the larger context is that the "basic" ASCII set is
only 127 characters while what I am used to using is actually one of a number
of extended character sets...
The manual is plenty clear about using utf-8 for non-latin alphabets. Where I
get confused in the manual is this:
PDF version 2.10.0 pg. 112 paragraph 4: "To enter lyrics with characters from
non-English languages, or with non-ASCII characters (such as the heart symbol
or slanted quotes), ...". This could be changed to "... non-English
languages, or with extended ASCII characters (accented or special characters
such as the heart symbol or slanted quotes), ..."
However on the same page paragraph 7: "A word in Lyrics mode begins
with: ... , any 8-bit character with ASCII code over 127, ..." This is simply
not true (I just tried it and upper ascii codes do not work in lyric mode
(10.2.0) even when starting a word. This reference should be deleted if LP is
not going to support it. If the docment is UTF-8 encoded then it really isn't
an ASCII code over 127 anyway. :)
For the sake of completeness other manual references which will need to be
updated:
pg 158, para. 2: delete "... non-ascii text (such as characters from other
languages), ..." and insert "... extended ASCII text (such as accented and
special characters or characters from other languages), ...
pg 227, sec 10.1.7, para 1: delete "... non-ASCII ...", and insert " ...
extended ascii characters (such as accented and special characters or
characters from other languages) ..."
Do not change the reference on pg 288! as it refers to ABC not LP.
The reference on pg 332 seems fine and is part of GNU license.
That being said, can anyone answer what happens in LP when upper ascii
characters are encountered. Is there any reason they can't just be mapped to
whatever the upper ascii table is on that machine (or some standard within the
LP community)? It would make it much easier for english speakers who only
occasionally use accented characters. I edit using xemacs and am not looking
forward to trying to get it save in UTF-8.
> UTF-8 is the only way to write both in danish AND french on the same text...
On my machine I can write a single ascii text document (using the full table)
that is in german, spanish, danish, norwegian, french, english.
Thanks
J
- Re: problems with german umlauts, (continued)
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Jonathan Henkelman, 2007/01/25
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Mats Bengtsson, 2007/01/25
- Re: problems with german umlauts, yota moteuchi, 2007/01/25
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Werner LEMBERG, 2007/01/25
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Werner LEMBERG, 2007/01/25
- Re: problems with german umlauts, yota moteuchi, 2007/01/25
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Werner LEMBERG, 2007/01/26
- Re: problems with german umlauts, René Bastian, 2007/01/26
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Bertalan Fodor, 2007/01/26
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Mats Bengtsson, 2007/01/26
- Re: problems with german umlauts,
Jonathan Henkelman <=
- Re: problems with german umlauts, David Rogers, 2007/01/26
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Anthony W. Youngman, 2007/01/28
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Bertalan Fodor, 2007/01/25
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Graham Percival, 2007/01/25
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Bertalan Fodor, 2007/01/26
- Re: problems with german umlauts, Anthony W. Youngman, 2007/01/26
Re: Re: Problems with german umlauts, David Gippner, 2007/01/24