Re: Importing PDF into Adobe Illustrator

[Fred Leason]

Your goal is to create an 8.5x11 pdf with some text and the jewel  
case sized graphic.
And you want to avoid importing the PDF into Illustrator because  
Illustrator wants to reformat everything and is not doing that well.
Rather than using Illustrator, why not try a raster graphics package  
like Photoshop Elements.  It will open pdf output and raster-ize it.   
Once raster-ized, you could crop it save it and pull it into  
Illustrator or anything else as a graphic, not a ps style file.  Mine  
works fine.

Other than that, figuring out a custom page size for Lilypond or  
using Latex or pdflatex and lilypond-book.

That is the best I can do.  Good luck.

On Feb 22, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Michael David Crawford wrote:

> Thanks Fred,
>
> That will work for me, but I'd like to also supply the case insert  
> as a PDF on my website - my whole CD is Creative Commons-licensed,  
> so I offer free downloads of it.
>
> But I was only trying to use Illustrator to position the score on  
> the paper.  Maybe it would work to position it from the Lilypond  
> source.
>
> The PDF for the outside of the case insert has some instruction at  
> the top of the landscape-oriented sheet, with the insert graphics  
> at the bottom.  Maybe it would work to just add a large margin  
> above the Lilypond header?
>
> Also, I defined the custom case insert paper size in one of  
> Lilypond's scheme source files, as instructed in the manual.  But I  
> don't want to require that of those who download my Lilypond  
> source.  Can a custom paper size be defined in a \paper block?
>
> Please be patient with me... I'm still a newbie with Lilypond.  But  
> I have quite grand musical ambitions: someday I'll be scoring  
> symphonies with Lilypond.  I'm very determined!
>
> Michael David Crawford
> address@hidden
> http://www.geometricvisions.com/
>
> Fred Leason wrote:
> > If you are merely queuing the cover to the printer, why don't you  
> > just define a custom Paper Size for your printer.  Preview can  
> > make it fit top and left justified.
> > In Preview, hit File / Page Setup.
> > The third pull-down is "Paper Size:" pull down and select "Manage  
> > Custom Sizes."
> > On the "Custom Page Sizes" menu, hit "+" and define your page size:
> > 4.75 X 4.75
> > Printer Margins "User defined," Top 0, Left 0, Right 0, Bottom 0.
> > (I think you name it somewhere, I called mine "CD Cover")
> > I can print graphics right on the pre-cut jewel case covers that  
> > came in a pad with my cases and CDs.
> > Good Luck!
> > Fred
> > On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Trevor Bača wrote:
> > > On 2/22/07, Michael David Crawford <address@hidden>  
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Again,
> > > >
> > > > I'm still working on my CD jewel case insert.
> > > >
> > > > I can now make a PDF in Lilypond that is the right size.  But I  
> > > > tried to
> > > > import it into Adobe Illustrator 10 for the Mac to position it  
> > > > on the
> > > > printed page - otherwise it gets printed in the middle, rather than
> > > > along the edge of the sheet, where I need it to match the  
> > > > outside of the
> > > > case insert that I previously designed in Illustrator.
> > > >
> > > > When I place the PDF in my Illustrator window, I get this message:
> > > >
> > > >     Missing Type 1 fonts have been substituted with the default  
> > > > font.
> > > >
> > > > And the staves are thick, solid black lines.  Also where the  
> > > > noteheads
> > > > appear outside the staves they are thickened.  The overall  
> > > > effect is as
> > > > if someone tried to draw the score with a thick felt marker.
> > > >
> > > > Is the some option that will fix this?  It seems to me that the  
> > > > score
> > > > wouldn't render in other programs if the font wasn't included in  
> > > > the
> > > > PDF.  Alternatively, could I install the Lilypond fonts in Mac  
> > > > OS X to
> > > > fix it?
> > >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > I can't vouch for Illustrator, but I had very similar problems with
> > > InDesign. The good news, is, however, that I did manage to get
> > > letter-perfect output from InDesign ... after about 2 and half weeks
> > > of figuring the following things out. All this is on Intel OS X box,
> > > BTW.
> > >
> > > 1. If you're working on a Mac, the most evil thing in this  
> > > process is
> > > that Apple's Preview application causes flat out weird stuff to  
> > > happen
> > > *if you open with Preview and then re-save with Preview*, say,  
> > > for the
> > > purpose of renaming your PDF. It's fine to *view* with Preview, but
> > > under no circumstances should you resave your PDFs with Preview. If
> > > you need to rename scores, just do so through the operating system.
> > > (Of course if you're on Windows or Linux, this doesn't apply.)
> > >
> > > 2. Placing the file in InDesign worked fine (so long as I obeyed  
> > > step
> > > 1), just using File > Place.
> > >
> > > 3. On exporting from InDesign, there was a very important detail.  
> > > The
> > > PDF created using File > Export > PDF did *not* work correctly on  
> > > all
> > > printers; the file would look OK on screen in InDesign but would
> > > export with weird font problems in the LilyPond inserts (such as
> > > gracenote flags displacing horizontally from the stems to which they
> > > attach). The solution was to use File > Export > EPS from within
> > > InDesign to generates EPSes, then open in Distiller with File > Open
> > > to create the PDF. That always worked perfectly.
> > >
> > > That was it. So the two most important points were to keep Apple's
> > > Preview completely out of the pipeline, and to export from  
> > > InDesign as
> > > EPS (rather than as PDF).
> > >
> > > If you don't have InDesign this won't help, but on the chance  
> > > that you
> > > have CS2 I thought I'd pass along the tips.
> > >
> > >
> > > --Trevor Bača
> > > address@hidden
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