Re: pedal position

[Mats Bengtsson]

I send a copy also to bug-lilypond, since I think there's something fishy
going on here with outside-staff-priority.

Stefan has correctly recognized that the relevant layout object to tweak 
is not
SustainPedal, but SustainPedalLineSpanner, just as you should tweak the
DynamicLineSpanner and not the DynamicText.

However, I don't understand what's going on, since as soon as I set
the outside-staff-priority of the SustainPedalLineSpanner, the dynamics
and pedal marks collide, no matter what values I use for the property.

\version "2.11.37"
\relative c''' {
 \override Staff.SustainPedalLineSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #250
 \override Voice.DynamicLineSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #0
 c2\pp\sustainDown
 c2\pp\sustainDown
}

So, for the bug report:
- Why does the pedal mark and dynamics collide as soon as you set
 SustainPedalLineSpanner #'outside-staff-priority
- Once the previous item has been resolved, shouldn't the different
 *PedalLineSpanner objects also have some setting of outside-staff-priority
 by default?

   /Mats


Stefan Thomas wrote:
> It is possible to move these things vertically by hand?
> I tried it with
> \relative c''' {
> \override SustainPedalLineSpanner #'padding = 8 c2~\pp\sustainDown 
> \times 2/3 {c4 b bes} |
> aes8\< f \times 2/3 {d8-. bes8-.
> ges8-.\p\sustainUp } r2 | }
> but the pedal and the dynamic stay at the same place.
> Isn't there another solution?
>
> Trevor Daniels schrieb:
> > > Stefan Thomas wrote on 28 January 2008 23:22
> > >
> > > Dear Lilypond-users,
> > > in the below quoted snippet I'm not happy with
> > > the vertical priority of
> > > the pedal-symbols and theDynamic.
> > > I would like to have the "pp" , the crescendo
> > > hairpin etc. above the
> > > pedal-signs. But I dont know ho to do.
> > > "\once \override DynamicLineSpanner
> > > #'outside-staff-priority = #1"
> > > doesn't work. What can I do?
> > > Here is the short example:
> > > \relative c''' {
> > > \once \override DynamicLineSpanner
> > > #'outside-staff-priority = #1
> > > c2~\pp\sustainDown \times 2/3 {c4 b bes} |
> > > aes8\< f \times 2/3 {d8-. bes8-.
> > > ges8-.\p\sustainUp } r2 | }
> > >
> > >     
> > Normally you would resolve this by setting the
> > outside-staff-priority for both objects, but it
> > seems the placement algorithm does not honour the
> > outside-staff-priority of the objects related to
> > piano pedals.  If, outside-staff-priority is
> > set for SustainPedal, for example, DynamicText
> > moves closer to the staff, but the SustainPedal
> > does not move, causing the objects to crash.
> > Here's a minimal example, copied to -bug.
> >
> > \relative c''' {
> >   c2\pp\sustainDown
> >   \override Voice.DynamicText #'outside-staff-priority = #1
> >   \override Staff.SustainPedal #'outside-staff-priority =
> > #1000
> >   c2\pp\sustainDown
> > }
> >
> > Is this a bug or a feature to be documented?
> >
> >  
> > > Thanks for any advice,
> > > Stefan
> > >
> > >     
> > Trevor D
> >  
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> >
> >
> >
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