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Re: GDP: What term do you use?


From: Trevor Bača
Subject: Re: GDP: What term do you use?
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:47:44 -0600

Yes, absolutely.

I had suggested that earlier in the thread but then the idea came up that transposition somehow implies a change of key. It most certainly does not.

And "displacement" is wholly wrong to my ears. Graphical noteheads can displace (to the left or right in the interval of a second). But not pitches. Pitches moving around is "transposition" in English, whether tonally or atonally or whatever.

"Octave transposition" would have to be the English term here.





On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Damian leGassick <address@hidden> wrote:
agreed, octave transposition is what i call it - the notation is transposed

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On 27 Feb 2008, at 16:37, Anh Hai Trinh wrote:

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:04:35 -0500, Kieren MacMillan <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi Eyolf,

Or one might turn the argument around and say that the melody is indeed
trans-posed -- placed somewhere else, whereas the negative associations
of dis- is that it's ended up in the wrong place...

Interesting point...

Really, what we're talking about is a NOTATIONAL SHORTHAND: the notes in question aren't actually TRANSPOSED or DISPLACED, just like notes in a "treble_8" clef are neither TRANSPOSED nor DISPLACED: they are simply NOTATED using a different (shorthand) method.


I think you are mistaken here, a concert A written in any clef would sound with f = 440Hz, whereas a written concert A with a 8va bracket would sound with f = 880Hz. Anything sounding at a different interval than what is notated is called transposition in orchestration books. I believe the correct term, if there need be one, would be "octave transposition".

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