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brackets over a single note


From: Jay Hamilton
Subject: brackets over a single note
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:08:31 -0700

have you tried analysis brackets?
from 1.7?
It might work but it looks like you want to do this a lot and if so it's a lot 
of copy and paste.



Yours-
Jay

Jay Hamilton
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:Centering lyrics on notes with ties (Greg Swinford)
   2. Re:GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist
      (Graham Percival)
   3. Re:horizontal bracket over a single note (Matthew)
   4. String specialities (Jay Hamilton)
   5. OttavaBracket bug? (Matthew)
   6. Re:Chords as roman numerals (Hugo Ribeiro)
   7. Re:OttavaBracket bug? (Neil Puttock)
   8. beaming problem (hhpmusic)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:25:53 +0100
From: Greg Swinford <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Centering lyrics on notes with ties
To: Kieren MacMillan <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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Many thanks! I have now upgraded.

Greg.


On 4 Apr 2008, at 19:41, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
>> Is is possible to center all lyric syllables,
>> even those where the note has a tie attached?
>
> Serendipitously, I sponsored this precise feature last summer:
>
> \layout
> {
>    \context { \Score lyricMelismaAlignment = #0 }
> }
>
> I believe Han-Wen added it into 2.11.30 so you might need to upgrade  
> in order to take advantage of it...
>
> Hope this helps!
> Kieren.





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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:03:53 -0700
From: Graham Percival <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist
To: Trevor Daniels <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden, "Palmer, Ralph" <address@hidden>
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:18:18 +0100
"Trevor Daniels" <address@hidden> wrote:

> Ralph Palmer wrote:
> 
> > 2.3.1  Bowed instruments
> 
> > I'd like to see "Fingerings" 
> 
> I'm not a string player and know nothing of this.  Is the
> normal fingering notation shown in NR 1.7.1 adequate for
> this, or are you looking for something peculiar to strings?

1.7.1 is all they need.  Well, maybe \open as well... although -0
works almost as well.

> > and possibly something about articulations
> > generally associated with just strings (if there are any).
> 
> I'll throw this open to the list - are there any?

Nope.

Granted, I cheated a bit by including \thumb in 1.7.1, but I don't
think there's anything else.  I suppose you *could* argue that
parts for very inexperienced string players could benefit from a
\textSpanner that says "II" (ie a hand position).  However, that
kind of thing is IMO best covered with snippets anyway.

I would expect (and hope!) that the snippet lists for NR 2
sections would be quite long.

Cheers,
- Graham




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:07:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: Matthew <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: horizontal bracket over a single note
To: address@hidden
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Michael Watts <zwy648rct <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> Try putting the textspanners into a separate voice with spacer notes.
> IIRC a textspanner needs to start on a 'real' note, so your
> textspanner voice would need transparent noteheads and stems.
> 


You can put TextSpanners on spacer note. However, then spacer notes space out
the notes that I actually want to bracket. Additionally, it would really be
annoying to do this for real; bars full of semiquavers, demisemiquavers and the
like....

\version "2.10.33"
textspan = {
       \override TextSpanner #'shorten-pair  = #'(-1.3 . -0.8)
       \override TextSpanner #'staff-padding = #1.0
       \override TextSpanner #'padding   = #0.5
       \override TextSpanner #'minimum-length  = #1.0
       \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction  = #0.95
       \override TextSpanner #'edge-height = #'(1.2 . 1.2)
}

su = \startTextSpan
eu = \stopTextSpan

rhythm = \relative c''  { c4 c c c } %want bracket over second note
brackets = \relative c' { f8 f16\su f\eu } %spacer notes do work
                                          % these are here so i can see them

\score {
         \new Staff <<
                 \new Voice = "rhythm"  { \voiceOne << \textspan \rhythm >> }
                 \new Voice = "bracket" { \voiceTwo << \textspan \brackets >> }
         >>
}







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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:13:51 -0700
From: "Jay Hamilton" <address@hidden>
Subject: String specialities
To: <address@hidden>
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I am a string player and as far as I can remember other than upbow downbow all 
the other articulations are similar to those in other instrumental music,  the 
fingering in 1.7 is useful for strings, and the only 'string' instrument that 
_may_ have other markings is the harp which I've only studied a little and 
remember nothing about.


Yours-
Jay

Jay Hamilton
www.soundand.com
206-328-7694

Message: 8
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:18:18 +0100
From: "Trevor Daniels" <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: GDP: Time to plan the revision of NR 2 "Specialist
To: "Palmer, Ralph" <address@hidden>,   <address@hidden>
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Ralph Palmer wrote:

>> Grand Documentation Project

> Under
> 2.3.1  Bowed instruments

> I'd like to see "Fingerings" 

I'm not a string player and know nothing of this.  Is the
normal fingering notation shown in NR 1.7.1 adequate for
this, or are you looking for something peculiar to strings?

> and possibly something about articulations
> generally associated with just strings (if there are any).

I'll throw this open to the list - are there any?

> Ralph
Trevor D

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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:21:47 +1000
From: Michael Watts <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Chords as roman numerals
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If you're "sharing it with the community", send it to the list as well!


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:22:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Matthew <address@hidden>
Subject: OttavaBracket bug?
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Matthew <rowlesmr <at> gmail.com> writes:


> I can't get the left edge for the ottava bracket to work. I want there to be a
> left edge, identical to the right.

Is this an OttavaBracket bug? The program-reference doesn't say anything about
values being hardcoded.

Could it be the way that I'm changing the ottavation text? I want there to be no
text.

Near-minimal example - shorten-pair is there to show that the left side does
work in at least one case.

\version "2.11.43"%%
\relative c'' 
{       
   {
      \set Staff.ottavation = #""
      %left edge doesn't work
      \override Staff.OttavaBracket #'edge-height = #'(1.2 . 1.2)
      %left edge does work
      \override Staff.OttavaBracket #'shorten-pair  = #'(-0.6 . -0.6)   
      c4
      #(set-octavation 0)
      c4
   }
}









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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:47:38 -0300
From: Hugo Ribeiro <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Chords as roman numerals
To: Michael Watts <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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Michael Watts escreveu:
> If you're "sharing it with the community", send it to the list as well!
>
Now it is shared. Thanks.
Hugo




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:04:08 +0100
From: "Neil Puttock" <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: OttavaBracket bug?
To: Matthew <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
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        <address@hidden>
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Hi Matthew,

On 05/04/2008, Matthew <address@hidden> wrote:

>  Is this an OttavaBracket bug? The program-reference doesn't say anything 
> about
>  values being hardcoded.

My C++ knowledge is minimal, but unless I'm mistaken, it appears that
the left edge is set to 0 after 'edge-height is read in
ottava-bracket.cc (which implements the print function for
octavations):

Drul_array<Real> edge_height = robust_scm2interval (me->get_property
("edge-height"),
                                                      Interval (1.0, 1.0));

edge_height[LEFT] = 0.0;

Regards,
Neil




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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:09:00 +0800 (CST)
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Subject: beaming problem
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