Re: How to add double barlines to a gregorian chant?

[Dominic Neumann]

I wonder why it doesn´t work whereas there is an online version where
it works. I´ve got the most recent version of LilyPond. Which version
is used at http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation? Or are there
special command-line options improving the output?

Dominic

2008/8/11 Joseph Haig <address@hidden>:
> Thanks!  I've been looking for a copy of this chant without success,
> although you appear to have missed the second line.  Possibly, this is
> deliberate as the music is the same as the first line.  I hope someone
> can solve the problem of the spacing.
>
> 2008/8/11 Dominic Neumann <address@hidden>:
>> Thanks Kurt! I already solved some problems, for example by using
>> \finalis, \divisioMinima and so on.
>> The main remaining problem is the bad positioning of notes and lyrics
>> when two or more noteheads are nearly in one place. After these places
>> is too much space until the next notehead is printed.
>>
>> Now I updated from 2.11.44 to 2.11.55 hoping that it helps. But the output of
>> http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Ancient-notation.html
>> looks other than online. Online there are not those ugly spaces, but
>> on my system there are. [It´s Windows XP Pro, LilyPond version
>> 2.11.55]
>> (see attachment for this).
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Dominic
>>
>> 2008/8/11 Kurt Kroon <address@hidden>:
>>> On 2008/07/29 8:04 AM, "Dominic Neumann" <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Hello!  I don't know if anyone else has answered this -- I haven't been
>>> getting digests for the past week or so -- so I figured I should toss my hat
>>> into the discussion ... especially since I have some recent experience in
>>> setting Gregorian chant.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I´m new to gregorian typesetting but I´ve seen that there´s already
>>>> support for it in LilyPond.
>>>> Can you tell me how I can add a double bar at the end?
>>>
>>> Replace \bar "||" with \finalis.  I would also use \divisioMinima instead of
>>> \breathe ... but that's just me.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And there is a wrong note at the end? How can I delete it?
>>>
>>> It looks to me like LilyPond is trying to interpret \bar in terms of
>>> gregorian-init.ly, and is failing.  (The diagnostic messages from the
>>> console would be helpful to determine if that's really the case.)  Replacing
>>> \bar "||" with \finalis should delete it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it at all a good idea to start typesetting gregorian chants with
>>>> LilyPond or are there too many diffulcuties by now?
>>>
>>> Yes, there are some difficulties, but you can see a small example of what
>>> the current development version of LilyPond can do at the "Ancient Notation"
>>> section of the GDP site:
>>>
>>> http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Ancient-notation.
>>> html
>>>
>>> Like the rest of the documentation, you can click on the image to see the
>>> LilyPond source that created it.  Some things to note: I did not include any
>>> tweaks because I wanted to see how LilyPond handled unmodified input, so I
>>> would be better informed while working on this section; the output is not
>>> perfect by any means, but it looks much better than the output produced by
>>> the current production version (last time I checked, anyway); there are some
>>> odd collisions (especially the last phrase, which runs into the last finalis
>>> (double bar).
>>>
>>> I hope that will be enough to get you started.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> You're welcome,
>>>
>>> Kurtis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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