Re: question about transposing an interval of a 4th

[chip]

Thanks Mark,
I was going to reply basically the same way, but from my past experience 
with this mailing list, it only incites more argumentative/sarcastic 
replies.

I've been using PC's since the '80's, I've been using many, many mailing 
lists. This list is by far the least friendly of any I have ever used. 
Unfortunately, it's the place to ask for help with Lily, even though the 
help is usually not provided, other than a curt rtfm. Tonight I 
installed Sibelius and input my piece in that, it transposed the second 
trumpet part a fourth while maintaining the same key sig as the 1st 
trumpet part, no problem. Yes, the printed parts are ugly as sin, but 
the manual is certainly more user friendly. I then saved the parts as a 
midi and imported it to Lily, but the imported file is messed up. But 
that's another problem for another days non-help on this list.

So at this point, looks like I will just have to do the long-hand work 
of typing in all the notes for the second trumpet part. At least it will 
be ready for a first reading tomorrow night.
--
Chip

Mark Polesky wrote:
> Graham,
>
> I don't think the tone you're using belongs
> here:
>
>   
> > I really don't understand this question.
> >     
>
> Then don't answer it.
>
>   
> > why on earth do you need to...
> >     
>
> Please stop judging users who need things that
> you don't understand.
>
>   
> > > I can't find this info in the manuals.
> > >       
> > ... LM 5.3 Scores and parts. Not terribly 
> > hard to find.
> >     
>
> Please stop insulting users.
>
>   
> > > Great, that helps a lot. I haven't got a clue 
> > > what scheme is.
> > >       
> > In that case, may I courteously extend an 
> > invitation that you read the bloody Learning 
> > Manual?
> >     
>
> Please stop the sarcasm and the indecency. If
> you're trying to be funny, it isn't working.
>
>   
> > I leave it as an exercise for the reader. Neil,
> > Trevor, Valentin: please don't give the answer.
> >     
>
> What are you doing? Are you trying to turn people 
> away from LilyPond? Do you work for Finale or 
> something? There have been 15 replies to Chip's 
> original message, and NO ONE has answered it yet.
> This is embarrassing. If it were as easy to the
> rest of us as it obviously is to you, someone
> would have answered it. A user asks a perfectly
> legitimate question, and the response is, "go
> figure it out". 
>
> This mailing-list is for users helping other 
> users, not insulting them. Yes, the manual is
> there, but the relevant information is obviously
> not where he expects it to be. 
>
> Meanwhile, his problem still remains -- has it 
> occurred to you he may have a deadline, or that
> he's forced to do it the long way because it's
> not worth it for him to start learning Scheme?
>
> Providing the answer may in fact help him to 
> learn a thing or two about Scheme. That's been
> my experience - when someone helps me by giving
> a solution that works, if I don't understand it,
> I can study it and learn something from it that
> way. I've actually learned a lot that way.
>
> But what you're doing is the opposite of helpful.
> So please, stop. Since it's such an elementary
> exercise, please provide it, now. I assume it'll
> only take a minute. Then we can all learn. I'm 
> curious myself, and I'm at least an elementary-
> level Schemer. Chip's question is an interesting
> one and the solution should be documented. 
>
> Remember, the LilyPond manual is not a math 
> textbook with exercises "left to the reader", it
> is a manual with answers, not questions. And so 
> should be this mailing-list.
>
> - Mark
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