Re: avoid slur help

[Reinhold Kainhofer]

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Am Freitag, 26. Dezember 2008 14:33:11 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
> James E. Bailey wrote:
> > Am 26.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
> >> james wrote:
> >>> I'm having some difficulty understanding the 'avoid-slur property.
> >>> This doesn't work:
> >>> \version "2.11.65"
> >>> \relative c'' {
> >>>    \override TextScript #'avoid-slur = #'inside
> >>>    c2*1/2( s4^\markup {\natural} d4.) c8
> >>> }
> >>> In fact, it increases the space between the slur and the notes, but
> >>> doesn't move the markup down.
> >>
> >> Hi James,
> >>
> >> So, do you want to move the natural markup down?
> >
> > No, I want the natural under the slur. Which I what I thought inside did.

Apparently, it reserves space for the natural below the slur, but still places 
the natural above the slur. Looks like a bug to me...

> You can make it go under the slur with extra-offset:

the problem with extra-offset is that this does not affect spacing at all! In 
particular, the skyline (that is used for staff spacing and for collisions 
with other objects) will still be the same old skyline as it was before the 
extra-offset. See the attached sample with skyline-debugging enabled. Notice 
that LilyPond still reserves space for the natural above the slur!

> Is the natural sign supposed to apply to the D?

I'm not sure.

> If so then I'd just use d!4. instead.

No, it was common practice to put accidentals above notes in older times. 
Sometimes these were meant to be optional, sometimes they were cautinary 
accidentals. In any case, if you try to be close to the source, you should 
write it above the note and not as d!4.

Cheers,
Reinhold
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