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Re: Persian musical koron and sori
From: |
Kees van den Doel |
Subject: |
Re: Persian musical koron and sori |
Date: |
Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:20:23 -0800 |
If you want to support more Persian notation the most important (and
universal) is probably the symbol for tahrir, which is a small o above (if
stems up) or below (if stems down) and in the middle of two equal notes.
Something like
o o <- tahrir
O O O
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it indicates a small grace note of undefined pitch.
There are some symbols for tar/setar and santur as well, let me know if you
want to see any.
Kees
----- Original Message -----
From: Behnam Rassi <address@hidden>
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel <address@hidden>
Cc: Hans Aberg <address@hidden>, Graham Breed <address@hidden>, lilypond
<address@hidden>
> I also hopefully will get some pictures from Iran.
> The thickness of the lines have also something to do with its
> harmony
> with other music notes. So this is not much of an issue. But
> the
> basic shaping has something that should be looked more
> carefully. But
> generally speaking it is pretty clear to me.
> There is apparently some specific notation marks for some
> specific
> instruments as well (Taar for example) I'm waiting for the scans
> to
> see what's the situation.
> Behnam
> On 2-Feb-09, at 4:50 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote:
>
> >
> >> On 2 Feb 2009, at 20:58, Kees van den Doel wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have several shelves of Persian music books and I have never
> >> seen
> >>> that "variation".
> >>> The sori is always a rotated = with an > on it, and the koron
> >> akways
> >>> has the '>' body.
> >>
> >> That is good to know - I think what you say is best, being
> >> most
> >> distinguishable (like from an inverted b or some other sharp
> >> variation).
> >> There is a small subtlety: the usual sharp # is usually drawn a
> >> bit
> >> slanted (endpoints of vertical bars not exactly level, but
> >> moving up).
> >> I think this may have to do with how the horizontal lines "="
> >> are
> >> drawn (somewhat slanted upwards). These horizontal lines are
> >> also
> >> usually drawn fat.
> >>
> >> Can you see in your examples how the sori is drawn in these
> >> respects?
> >> That is, are vertical line endpoints level,
> >
> > No, the vertical lines are just as in the normal sharp.
> >
> >> and is the ">" fatter?
> >
> > Usually not, but they are handwritten. I'll scan in some
> more
> > examples to compare.
> >
> > Kees
>
>
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