Re: Persian musical koron and sori

[Behnam Rassi]

Yes of-course send me any relevant picture of Persian music notation.  
I'm currently in the phase of collecting information as much as  
possible.
I also need to study more about the specifics of font making for  
LilyPond. I did not have time yet to delve in this issue. But I'm  
pretty much confident it's a no brainer.
What I'm not clear about is that you don't need just a font  
containing two glyphs for Sori and Koron right? You need a font  
containing all necessary glyphs for music writing, including Sori and  
Koron. So I have to add them to an existing font. Did I understand it  
correctly? I don't think I will be able to design ALL of them. I'll  
be able to design Sori and Koron (and Tahrir and whatever else I  
found consistently used) in visual harmony with other existing  
notations.

I will get back to you when I collected the information I need. I did  
not have time to study the font part yet. I will get back to you when  
I have a clearer idea about the whole issue.

Behnam

On 2-Feb-09, at 7:20 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote:

> If you want to support  more Persian notation the most important  
> (and universal) is probably the symbol for tahrir, which is a small  
> o above (if stems up) or below (if stems down) and in the middle of  
> two equal notes.
> Something like
>    o   o        <- tahrir
> O  O  O
> |    |   |
> |    |   |
>
> it indicates a small grace note of undefined pitch.
>
> There are some symbols for tar/setar and santur as well, let me  
> know if you want to see any.
>
> Kees
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Behnam Rassi <address@hidden>
> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 2:46 pm
> Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
> To: Kees van den Doel <address@hidden>
> Cc: Hans Aberg <address@hidden>, Graham Breed  
> <address@hidden>, lilypond <address@hidden>
>
> > I also hopefully will get some pictures from Iran.
> > The thickness of the lines have also something to do with its
> > harmony
> > with other music notes. So this is not much of an issue. But
> > the
> > basic shaping has something that should be looked more
> > carefully. But
> > generally speaking it is pretty clear to me.
> > There is apparently some specific notation marks for some
> > specific
> > instruments as well (Taar for example) I'm waiting for the scans
> > to
> > see what's the situation.
> > Behnam
> > On 2-Feb-09, at 4:50 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote:
> >
> > > > On 2 Feb 2009, at 20:58, Kees van den Doel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have several shelves of Persian music books and I have never
> > > > seen
> > > > > that "variation".
> > > > > The sori is always a rotated = with an > on it, and the koron
> > > > akways
> > > > > has the '>' body.
> > > >
> > > > That is good to know - I think what you say is best, being
> > > > most
> > > > distinguishable (like from an inverted b or some other sharp
> > > > variation).
> > > > There is a small subtlety: the usual sharp # is usually drawn a
> > > > bit
> > > > slanted (endpoints of vertical bars not exactly level, but
> > > > moving up).
> > > > I think this may have to do with how the horizontal lines "="
> > > > are
> > > > drawn (somewhat slanted upwards). These horizontal lines are
> > > > also
> > > > usually drawn fat.
> > > >
> > > > Can you see in your examples how the sori is drawn in these
> > > > respects?
> > > > That is, are vertical line endpoints level,
> > >
> > > No, the vertical lines are just as in the normal sharp.
> > >
> > > > and is the ">" fatter?
> > >
> > > Usually not, but they are handwritten.  I'll scan in some
> > more
> > > examples to compare.
> > >
> > > Kees