Re: Problem with fingering

[Tomas Valusek]

Hello,

thanks for solution. It's great to have any solution. Could anyone 
please send it into LSR for future reference?

Nevertheless, I consider it as a temporary solution. I'm a visually 
impaired teacher and I'm about to use LilyPond for providing fingering 
of played pieces for my pupils. So as I'm a piano teacher, I'm about to 
bump into fingering of chords containing seconds quite often. Every GUI 
notator which supports fingerings has a way for easy input of chord 
fingerings stacked vertically. It would be nice to have such behavior in 
LilyPond too, since the suggested hack will greatly reduce readability 
of notation sources, which can be used also as a source of music for 
blind musicians, who are used to read sequential representation of music.

Tomas Valusek

Trevor Daniels napsal(a):
> It would be nice if LilyPond were able to resolve every possible
> fingering configuration optimally, but it is a complex problem.
>
> Generally, the options available work pretty well, and when they
> don't there is the possibility to tweak the positions of individual
> fingerings to your liking. Like this:
>
> \relative c' {
>   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
>   <c-1 d-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(0 . 0.7)-2 a'-5>4
>   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down)
>   <c-1 d-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(-1.2 . 0)-2 a'-5>4
>   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down right up)
>   <c-1 d-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(-1.2 . 1)-2 a'-5>4
>   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(up)
>   <c-1 d-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(-1.2 . 0)-2 a'-5>4
> }
>
> Trevor
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stocker" 
> <address@hidden>
> To: "Tomas Valusek" <address@hidden>
> Cc: "lilypond-user Mailinglist" <address@hidden>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Problem with fingering
>
>
> > This is a problem for me as well. I prefer my fingerings to the left 
> > of notes and chords in the score (for guitar music) and when notating 
> > chords that contain seconds, I'm forced to choose which notes to 
> > indicate fingerings for in order to avoid collisions. Another related 
> > problem: In chords involving notes with accidentals, some fingerings 
> > are displayed to the left of the accidental (good) while fingerings on 
> > notes without accidentals are not shifted left (ugly-and sometimes 
> > results in collisions between accidentals and fingering indications). 
> > It would be great to be able to tell LilyPond to display all 
> > fingerings for a chord in one vertical column, and to automatically 
> > resolve fingering collisions when there are fingerings for intervals 
> > smaller than a third.
> >
> > Tomas Valusek wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > let's modify slightly a snippet from NR 1.7.1, section Fingering 
> > > Instructions:
> > >
> > > \relative c' {
> > >   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
> > >   <c-1 d-2 a'-5>4
> > >   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down)
> > >   <c-1 d-2 a'-5>4
> > >   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(down right up)
> > >   <c-1 d-2 a'-5>4
> > >   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(up)
> > >   <c-1 d-2 a'-5>4
> > > }
> > >
> > > What we get? See attachement.
> > >
> > > AFAIK, numbers in chord fingering should be one directly above the 
> > > other, not shifted sideways. Si this a bug?
> > >
> > > Tomas Valusek
> > >
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