Re: invisible slurs in tablature

[Marc Hohl]

Carl D. Sorensen schrieb:
> If I understand correctly, you have a group of interested users who are
> working on defining how Tablature should behave.
>
> You also have a couple of tablature users who are interested in becoming
> Frogs and thus joining the development team (Marc is one of them, IIRC).
>
> When you have agreement as to what should be the default for tablature, then
> it will be time to add the changes to the distribution (and Marc would be an
> ideal person to do it).
>
> Right now, as I understand it, there are some users who regularly have
> TabStaffs without any other staff.  These users need stems, beams, flags,
> ties, slurs, etc.
>
> There is also a group of users who regularly use TabStaff with Staff.  These
> users want only numbers, because the beams, stems, slurs, ties, etc. are all
> in the regular music staff, and the TabStaff is only showing fret and string
> information.
>
>   
Yes, that's right. In songbooks you normally find regular music staves 
with the additional
information about fret and string numbers, so the stems and stuff would 
simply look too
complicated.
On the other hand, when I write down the intro of a song played by 
guitar in tablature and the
rest of the song is simply the lyrics with some chords above, I want to 
have the stems in the
tab to save space on the song sheet.
> People who care strongly about tablature (of which I am *not* one) should be
> the people who make the decision about what the default should be.  In fact,
> I don't think there's anybody on the core development team who is strongly
> interested in tablature.
>
> That being said, I don't think that the decision to make notes only or full
> music the default is a very important decision, as long as there is a single
> command to change to the other style.
>
>   
Would it be easier to define two separate staff commands? In my files, I 
define

noten = \relative c { c d e f }

and feed this into a Staff AND a TabStaff. So, why not create a compound 
Staff (called \MusicTabStaff, for example),
which does exactly the same as

<< \Staff { \noten } \TabStaff  { \numbersOnly \noten } >>

and uses only the numbers, whereas \TabStaff (as defined in lilypond) is 
used in the cases where
no regular staves are needed and thus shows up everything (stems, slurs 
etc.)?

> When the decision is made, and it's ready for submission to LilyPond, the
> defaults will be established in ly/engraver-init.ly
>
> The commands for changing from one to the other will be established in
> ly/property-init.ly.
>
> Marc, once you've got consensus, you can make the changes and roll me a
> patch, and I'll apply it.
>
>   
Ok, but I think we are just at the beginning of the topic. The more I 
think about tablature features/defaults,
the more complicated it gets ;-)

Marc
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>
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