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Re: triple stop warnings


From: Owain Sutton
Subject: Re: triple stop warnings
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:26:16 +0000

On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 10:42 +0000, Philip Potter wrote:
> 2009/12/11 Owain Sutton <address@hidden>:
> > On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 09:20 +0000, Philip Potter wrote:
> >> 2009/12/11 Jay Anderson <address@hidden>:
> >> > I've done triple-stops like this in the past:
> >> > << c4 <g' e'>2.\fermata >>
> >> >
> >> > I'd prefer to do the triple-stop something more like this to avoid 
> >> > warnings:
> >> > <\tweak #'duration-log #2 \tweak #'dot-count #0 c g' e'>2.\fermata |
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately I can't make the dot disappear easily (the dot-count
> >> > thing I was trying doesn't work). I could probably write a function to
> >> > remove the dot for this case (which might not be a bad idea:
> >> > \tripleStop <c g' e'>2.\fermata), but if there's a simple tweak to get
> >> > rid of the dot I'd be interested to know. Does this fall under the
> >> > recent \tweak nested properties changes? Thanks.
> >>
> >> Is this notation something you've seen other music producers use? It
> >> sounds like you want a chord with a crotchet at the bottom and two
> >> fermata'd minims at the top; and you want to ignore the warning about
> >> the lower crotchet not being the same length as the minims. I'm not
> >> convinced that this is the best way to do what you want, but I'm not a
> >> string player so I'm not familiar with string music conventions.
> >
> >
> > This kind of thing is perfectly normal notation, as an explicit
> > instruction to arpeggiate a chord in a certain way - off-hand, examples
> > I can think of are in the last movement of Tchaik 5, and various points
> > in the Stravinsky violin concerto.
> 
> Do you have a graphical example? I still can't picture it, and it
> would help greatly to understand exactly what is wanted.
> 
> Phil
> 

I realise now I've checked that the Tchaikovsky does have rests in the
lower 'voice'.  The Stravinsky doesn't, however, - but you can just
about make it out here, at figure 2:
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/look_inside/5867960/image/262798





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