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Re: Problems with diminuendo placing with 2 voices


From: Phil Holmes
Subject: Re: Problems with diminuendo placing with 2 voices
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:23:27 -0000

James,

Thanks for this. I'd eventually (quite soon after posting :-( ) worked out that I need to use the voice with the shorter notes and keep both marks (start and finish) on the same voice. I'd not picked up that I was actually trying to start the dim. after I'd finished it!

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Phil Holmes


----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bailey" <address@hidden>
To: "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden>
Cc: <address@hidden>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with diminuendo placing with 2 voices



On 24.01.2010, at 14:05, Phil Holmes wrote:

Hello - my first post.
However, I can't find a way of making a diminuendo mark appear within the LilyPond notation. An example of the sort of thing I'm trying to do is at http://www.holmessoft.co.uk/homepage/images/ RestChords.gif

I've translated this to LilyPond as shown at the bottom of the page. However, the dim. marking (^\>) is flagged as "warning: unterminated decrescendo". I can't find anywhere where I can place the \> and the \! to make the dim. show on the page and to avoid the error. Advice gratefully received.


Hello

I see two problems with your diminuendo.
1 The dim. starts and ends on the same beat: essentially it's <<{s2\>} \\{s4\! s}>>. That gets translated as, start a diminuendo on the first half note and end it on the first quarter note. If you want it to be one beat long, you only need s4\> s\!. 2 The dim. crosses voices. Remeber that the <<{}\\{}>> is just a short form for <<\new Voice = "1"{\voiceOne}\\\new Voice = "2"{\voiceTwo}>>. So, what you have is <<\new Voice ="1"{\voiceOne s2 \>}\\\new Voice = "2" {\voiceTwo s4\! s}>>. I'd imagine you also get an error along the lines of "Warning: cannot terminate (de)crescendo".

If you don't want to create a separate voice to have dynamics (which is often very useful), and you want the dim. to be two beats long, then s2\> s\! is what you want.

I've replaced all note names with spacer rests since they work just as well, and you can put in the notes that you want.

Hope this helps you.

James


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