Re: Lyrics across multi-voice sections

[Mats Bengtsson]

James Bailey wrote:
> On 01.03.2010, at 14:28, Graham Percival wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 01:03:02PM +0100, James Bailey wrote:
> > > On 01.03.2010, at 12:11, Graham Percival wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 28, 201Thanks for the offer, but isn't this exactly the
> > > > second example from
> > > > the bottom in LM 3.2.3 Voices and vocals ?
> > >
> > > Yes and no. Yes, the judas maccabeus example does exactly what's
> > > discussed here, single-staff polyphony with lyrics, but it's not really
> > > clear that single-staff polyphony is at work here, and definitely 
> > > doesn't
> > > show the usage of a short section of single staff polyphony. If need 
> > > be,
> > > I can whip something super-simple up.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm not following this at all.  Please make up an example,
> > and explain why it's different/better than the current thing.
> >
> > Note that I never use polyphony or lyrics, and have a fever, so
> > I'll either need a very simple explanation or have another
> > developer take over this discussion from me.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Graham
> This is basically what confuses people. No, it's not any different 
> than what's explained elsewhere, it's just that it's not explained all 
> together. All of the consituent pieces are explained, but nowhere is 
> really explained that this is how to have a short section of polyphony 
> when lyrics are present. I think we can leave the LSR examples if 
> lyrics need to be placed above the staff (for a descant, or some such).
>
> \version "2.12.3"
>
> vocals = \relative {
>    c4 d e f
>    <<
>       {
>          \voiceOne
>          g2 g
>       }\new Voice {
>          \voiceTwo
>          f4( e) e( d)
>       }
>    >> \oneVoice
>    c1
> }
>
> textAll = \lyricmode { This is some text that goes here }
>
> \score {
>    <<
>       \new Staff \new Voice = vocals \vocals
>       \new Lyrics \lyricsto vocals \textAll
>    >>
> }

The main point of confusion is that you cannot do what seems most 
intuitive, namely to use the << \\ >> construct. You will never be able 
to make this point in the manual, unless you also include an example of 
what does not work. I was convinced that I had seen such an example 
somewhere in the documentation, but cannot find it right now.

Here's a version of James' example that does not do what most users 
intuitively would expect.

\version "2.12.3"

vocals = \relative {
  c4 d e f
  <<
     { g2 g } \\ { f4( e) e( d) }
  >>
  c1
}

textAll = \lyricmode { This is some text that goes here }

\score {
  <<
     \new Staff \new Voice = vocals \vocals
     \new Lyrics \lyricsto vocals \textAll
  >>
}

Note also that this problem must be pointed out both when talking about 
the << \\ >> construct and when talking about \lyricsto.

   /Mats

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