Re: Odd output

Cheers,
Mike

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Phil Holmes <address@hidden> wrote:

As I replied in my direct reply - because it's not right. I asked a friend who teaches music about the Mikado problem I had and he said:

"Key- C major

Bass note pedals - C-G C-G etc.

Chord in Bar 1 G7 (G B D Fnat = dominant 7th); Chord in Bar 2 C major (CEG)

Each bar has a melody which uses AGF# G with the F# as a chromatical altered
note (lower auxiliary between the 2 Gs) and therefore clashes (to create
interest) with both chords.

Each sounds fine on their own but looks illogical as a whole.

If you can convince LilyPond that the accidentals are in different voices in
the piano part then I would hope it would work. You could but shouldn't
use a Gb not a F# as the first chordsis a G chord."

Note his final comment - could use a Gb but shouldn't.

--
Phil Holmes

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ellis

To: LilyPond User Group

Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: Odd output

Why not set one of the notes to a different enharmonic pitch? It's certainly much kinder to the musician who's trying to play the composition.

\include "english.ly"

{

\clef treble

\time 4/4

<<

{ fs'4 }

\\

{ es'4 }

>>

}

Cheers,
Mike

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Phil Holmes <address@hidden> wrote:

Please reply to the user group as well.

As is often pointed out, it's free software and the fixes depend on who is working for nothing on the code.

I wouldn't think it would crop up frequently.

I made a workaround with a combination of forcing the accidentals to be displayed, and then using force-hshift and extra-offset and a few other tweaks to make it work.

My example is pretty complicated, because I also autogenerate the code, but you're welcome to a copy if you want.

--
Phil Holmes

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Correia" <address@hidden>
To: "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Odd output

Thanks!

I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This
completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve
as a printer for computer generated music. The output is not ugly - it is
plain wrong!

Why doesn't the accidental_engraver looks into other voices as well?

Maybe I can workaround it by doing an extra pass before writing the lilypond
code to check if this kind of problem may occur... But now I wonder what other
kind of potential problems may occur with this accidental_engraver
algorithm...

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I think this problem deserves more
consideration.

Thank you!
Marco

On Friday 10 December 2010, you wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Correia" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:35 AM
Subject: Odd output

> Hi,
>
> I just started using lilypond, so it is very possible that I'm making
> some mistake.
>
> When compiling this example:
>
> \include "english.ly"
> {
> \clef treble
> \time 4/4
> <<
> { fs'4 }
> \\
> { f'4 }
>
> }
>
> I see two notes on fs (occupying the same position but with stems up > and
> down). There is no indication that f is there.
>
> Is this supposed to/ how do I fix it?
>
> Thanks!
> Marco

This was one of the first issues I raised, in June this year. I think it
was my first bug report:

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1134

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Marco Correia <address@hidden>

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From:	Michael Ellis
Subject:	Re: Odd output
Date:	Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:59:48 -0500