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Re: fretboard diagram : removing the fret number on the side


From: Carl Sorensen
Subject: Re: fretboard diagram : removing the fret number on the side
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:51:59 -0700

On 12/21/10 12:51 AM, "David Kastrup" <address@hidden> wrote:

> Carl Sorensen <address@hidden> writes:
> 
>> On 12/20/10 8:57 PM, "Marc Mouries" <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>>>   
>>>  The fret diagram prints a fret number indication on the right that is
>>> confusing from a Violinist perspective.
>>>  Is there any option for the fret diagram not to print it?
>> 
>> Unfortunately, right now there is no way to change it.
>> 
>>> 
>>>  For instance, in the 2nd D chord i'd like to get rid of the "iv" or
>>> print "i"
>>> because on the Violin it is more helpful to think in terms of position than
>>> fret as there is none.
>> 
>> So do you want fret indications in your violin "fret" diagrams?
>> 
>> And how is the position calculated?
> 
> You can't really calculate it all too well.  In "first position", the
> pinky is in the current scale a fifth above the empty string.  In "half
> position", it is a diminuished fifth, while the index finger is a half
> step above the empty string (if the index finger is a half step above
> the empty string, but the pinky is still a full fifth, it is not "half
> position" since you can still sound the next empty string).
> 
> In "third" position, the index finger is a fourth above the empty
> string.  Basically, the position more or less concerns the relation
> between the current scale and the hand position and fingering and is a
> somewhat fuzzy concept when the number of accidentals rises.

There is a fingering chart that shows first and third position fingerings
here:

http://www.violinonline.com/fingerboard_chart.htm

If this chart is to be believed, first position spans from the first "fret"
to the seventh "fret".  Third position spans from the fifth "fret" to the
tenth "fret".

There is also an advanced fingering chart here:

http://www.violinonline.com/fingeringchart-advanced.htm

It shows 1st through 7th positions.  According to this chart, first position
has the first finger on the 1st or 2nd fret, second position has the first
finger on the 3rd or 4th fret, third position has the first finger on the
5th fret, fourth position has the first finger on the 7th fret, fifth
position has the first finger on the 8th or 9th fret, sixth position has the
first finger on the 10th fret, and 7th position has the first finger on the
12th fret.

If this is correct, we could calculate the position given the number of the
fret for the first finger.  And we would just need to add a fretboard
property describing the fret-label scheme.  Then we could display a position
number.

Thanks,

Carl




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