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Re: expressive marks inside slurs


From: jakob lund
Subject: Re: expressive marks inside slurs
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:43:14 +0100

2011/1/26 Paul Scott <address@hidden>:
> On 01/25/2011 01:48 PM, James Lowe wrote:
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Scott<address@hidden>
>> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:36:23 -0700
>> To: "address@hidden"<address@hidden>
>> Subject: expressive marks inside slurs
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2.13.46:
>>>
>>> I've been searching the documentation and the web for a while trying to
>>> get accents, etc. inside slurs.
>>>
>>> 1.  What draws accents, turns, etc.?
>>>
>>
>>
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attac
>> hed-to-notes
>>
>> To get them 'inside' slurs see a few paragraphs down
>>
>> 'Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts'
>>
>> You need to set the priority of the relevant mark - the example should
>> give you the hints.
>>
>
> Ok.  Since a slur doesn't seem to be a script I went back to trying:
>
> \override Slur #'outside-staff-priority = #-1
>
> after putting it nearer the relevant music code it did move the expressive
> marks inside but the vertical spacing increased drastically and produced the
> strange result shown by the code below.  Why aren't the accents and portatos
> the same distance from the noteheads as the staccato marks are?  They seem
> to follow the curve of the slur.
>
> Thanks for your help so far.  I had read that part of the documentation and
> it didn't seem to make sense since it talked about scripts.

I'm not sure why/what happens, but try

\new Staff \with {
  \consists Script_engraver
}
\new Voice \with {
  \remove Script_engraver
} {
 \override  Slur #'outside-staff-priority = #1
 c''4-_( c''-_ c''-_ c''-_) c''4->( c''-> c''-. c''-.)
 c''4-_( c''-_ c''-_ c''-_) c''4->( c''-> c''-. c''-.)
}

(and then if you remove the override it becomes weird...)


Jakob.

>
> I would still like to know where in the Internals Reference I can find the
> tweakable properties of accents, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> \version "2.13.46"
>
> {
>  c''4-_( c''-_ c''-_ c''-_) c''4->( c''-> c''-. c''-.)
>  c''4-_( c''-_ c''-_ c''-_) c''4->( c''-> c''-. c''-.)
>  \break
>  \override Slur #'outside-staff-priority = #-1
>  c''4-_( c''-_ c''-_ c''-_) c''4->( c''-> c''-. c''-.)
>  c''4-_( c''-_ c''-_ c''-_) c''4->( c''-> c''-. c''-.)
> }
>
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