Re: LilyPond to Finale :-(

[Urs Liska]

Well, there are two issues which might be valid arguments:

• They want a new edition to comply to the house's standards, i.e. it should look like any other edition from this publisher.
  
• Additionally, the piece in question will eventually be published as part of a Complete Edition, and should therefore be the same as the rest of the edition. But OTOH chances are more than high that this critical edition won't be done by me, so they would probably have to start from scratch anyway.

The other argument is quite silly: They need to have the scores ready to be eventually updated/corrected for future releases. This is really silly, because as we all know, a well-structured and commented lilypond score is way more maintainable than a Finale or Sibelius score. They just don't have people at hand who know how to work with Lilypond ...

But the most ugly aspect of the case is that the publishing house owns the rights to the piece (which is a very prominent composer's arrangement of a very prominent historical piece from the beginning of the 20th century). So they can (and actually did) prohibit a publication by another publisher (which would be an option for me). Well, I hope these aren't the last words - there may be a few more options to try out.
I have another piece from the same project with its rights being owned by another major publisher, so I'll see how they respond.
[And to be honest: I did these editions in the first place to have performing material for a cd recording I'm going to do next week. So the work put in the scores isn't lost at all].

Best
Urs

Am 05.06.2011 04:12, schrieb Shane Brandes:

Oh, that sounds altogether too familiar. Being as fixated on clean
looking scores as I am Lilypond was the winner in my search for
clarity. I recently had a similar thing happen with a publisher, the
response of which it would be too much effort to make the conversion
to Finale. I could have found a relatively easy way to resubmit in
Finale, but thought it was a waste and complete regression of
standards. Basically, I see a score and know often as not if it was
set in Finale or Sibelius and those outputs really bother me. The most
curious thing about the whole situation was the editor I spoke with
who was pretty enthusiastic and a supporter of my endeavors was also
very proud of the fact that he had originally gotten his music
published because of his exceptionally clean hand. That amused me
since there is no way a hand written score could compete with the
output that is now possible, and I once had an exceptionally clear
hand too, but that was before computers were more than fancy
paperweights. Anyway, how idiotically stupid that anyone of use are
even discussing such editorial absurdities.

Shane

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Urs Liska <address@hidden> wrote:

Just look at the last three characters of the message title.
As the thread starter I can say that I didn't get a contract to publish a
piece for a major publishing house because I couldn't provide a Finale file.
They weren't willing to either use a Lilypond file or pay for someone to
newly typeset it. And I wasn't willing either because I think: It is bad
enough that they (can) expect an editor to do the typesetting also, to let
him even pay for the typesetting is just too much :-(

Besides of that, I absolutely agree with your opinion ...

Best
Urs

Am 04.06.2011 17:18, schrieb Nils:

Why would anyone try to convert something from Lilypond to Finale?
It like converting a high-res HDR picture to a 16 color gif.

Nils

Am Fri, 3 Jun 2011 04:09:13 -0700 (PDT)
schrieb Vuott<address@hidden>:

...but how can I  produce (export) a midi file by LilyPond ?




Graham Percival-3 wrote:

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Urs Liska<address@hidden>
wrote:

I will have to somehow convert a LilyPond score to Finale :-(

You _might_ be able to save some time by producing a midi file from
lilypond, importing the midi into finale, and then correcting
pitches, rhythms, dynamics, and adding slurs, articulations, etc...
but honestly, I'd just start from scratch.

Look at the pdf from lilypond, and start clicking away.

But are there solutions that could transfer more information more
reliably
to a finale file.

No.

... oh wait, I think I've heard of some kind of sheet music scanning
ability in finale or sibelius or the like?  If you have that, you
could try printing the music, then scanning it in.

Cheers,
- Graham

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