RE: Can you make MultiMeasureRests ignore spaces?

[Steven Weber]

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From: James Lowe [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 1:58 PM
To: Steven Weber; address@hidden
Subject: RE: Can you make MultiMeasureRests ignore spaces?

Hello
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From: Steven Weber address@hidden
Sent: 14 June 2011 21:01
To: James Lowe; address@hidden
Subject: RE: Can you make MultiMeasureRests ignore spaces?


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[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of
Steven Weber
Sent: 11 June 2011 22:35
To: address@hidden
Subject: Can you make MultiMeasureRests ignore spaces?

I'm trying to separate my layout from my notes - what I'd like to have is
something like:

Notes =
{
                R1*4/4*4 |
}

Layout =
{
                s1*4/4*1 |
                s1*4/4*1 |
                s1*4/4*1 |
                s1*4/4*1 |
}

\score
{
                \new Staff
                <<
      \compressFullBarRests
                                \Notes
                                \Layout
                >>
}

However, when I have the layout per measure, the MultiMeasureRest doesn't
get compressed.  It's easy to solve by just doing s1*4/4*4, but I'd like to
leave the layout in individual measures if possible.  Any suggestions?

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[James' reply:] Put the \compressFullBarRests inside the music variable

Notes = {
            \compressFullBarRests
              R1*4/4*4
}

etc

James

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Yup, I've tried that; it doesn't work.  I still get 4 bars of rests instead
of 1 multi-measure rest regardless of where I put the \compressFullBarRests.

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[James reply:] Yes sorry I didn't notice. It will work if you use one
instance s1*4/4*4 instead of 4 instances of s1*4/4*1

So you want to have 4 bars of simultaneous music (polyphony) where the top
voice is a multimeasure rest and the bottom voice is 4 bars?

I don't really know what you are trying to achieve here.

Even if explicitly state new staves

                <<
 \new Staff   \Notes
 \new Staff   \Layout
                >>

You get 4 bars or music one with 4 R1 rests and the other with 4 of blank
music.

There is no musical reason you'd use 'spacer' rests in this context except
to show this problem - which is seems to be a nonsense (no offence intended)
example. The idea is that a measure shows the musics moment, the fact you
use a single space reset 4 times is the same as using a single crotchet
note.

For instance what would you expect if you replaced s1 with c1 in your
example?

Perhaps it is better to understand what you want to achieve using a real
world example.

James

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My goal is to completely separate my layout from my notes - as a non-musical
comparison, I'd like Notes to be my HTML, and Layout to be my CSS.  I'm
currently doing this with the s1*4/4*4 notation,  but I'd like to be able to
do it with s1*4/4*1 (repeated multiple times) because it's much easier to
find the exact measure I want this way (I have a measure number comment
every 5 measures in the note section, so I want to say "add a break after
measure 78" rather than "add a break 32 measures after the last break I
inserted" in the layout section).

So for a more real-world example, I'd want to do something like:

Notes = { R1*4/4*4 | }
Layout = { s1*4/4*1 | s1*4/4*1 \break | s1*4/4*1 | s1*4/4*1 | }

\new Score
{
        <<
                \compressFullBarRests
                \Notes
                \Layout
        >>
}

And wind up with one staff that has 2 multi-measure rests (both of them 2
measures long) - as if Layout was defined as { s1*4/4*2 \break s1*4/4*2 }.

Does that make more sense? 

Thanks!

--Steven