Re: Lilypond lobbying?

[Francois Planiol]

No, this is all very clear, If they want the source-file in sib or
mus, its only because:
- They are totally stupid and never heard of pdf printers (like pdf24,
it free and works fine)
- or they want to make a commercial use after modifying the files, who knows.

Now, count your time and think about how many you will have to pay to
buy one of these programs, and subtract this sum from the first non
gratified prize (I dont mean your composition would not be good, but
with this kind of people writing this stupid rules, you have no idea
if the value of composition will be important in the decision), and
think about all things you could do that will profit better to musical
world during the time you need to learn one of these programs, that
are just the CONTRARY of install and work.

Forget them!

Francois

2011/8/18, Francois Planiol <address@hidden>:
> No, this is all very clear, If they want the source-file in sib or
> mus, its only because:
> - They are totally stupid and never heard of pdf printers (like pdf24,
> it free and works fine)
> - or they want to make a commercial use after modifying the files, who
> knows.
>
> Now, count your time and think about how many you will have to pay to
> buy one of these programs, and subtract this sum from the first non
> gratified prize (I dont mean your composition would not be good, but
> with this kind of people writing this stupid rules, you have no idea
> if the value of composition will be important in the decision), and
> think about all things you could do that will profit better to musical
> world during the time you need to learn one of these programs, that
> are just the CONTRARY of install and work.
>
> Forget them!
>
> Francois
>
> 2011/8/18, Mike Solomon <address@hidden>:
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Neil Thornock wrote:
>>
>>> It may be that the will want the FinSib file of the winning piece and
>>> only have editing capabilities with one of those two formats.
>>>
>>> Still, it's sad.
>>>
>>
>> I didn't think of this...you're right that it's possible, but given the
>> numerous hacks one can do in either of these formats to freeze line breaks
>> /
>> position / etc. and given how terrible the scores can look if one starts
>> to
>> break these hacks to devise alternate paginations / page sizes / headers
>> /
>> footers / etc., I think that if this is the case, then the rule was
>> created
>> by people who aren't anticipating the crazy stuff that composers will do
>> with Finale or are shaping their decision in light of the perceived
>> edibility of the score.
>>
>> What it may be worth lobbying for, then, is simply that people hold
>> composers (or anyone, really) to the standard of being able to reproduce
>> their scores in a set of reasonable substitute formats and to edit their
>> scores along reasonable guidelines when requested.  Reasonable is, say,
>> A4
>> to letter paper, but not quicktime movie to A4 paper (or if this is the
>> case, it needs to be a flip-book of A4 paper).  It is trivial in LilyPond
>> to
>> add "edited by so and so" to the bottom of a document, and while this is
>> an
>> extra burden for the composer, by outsourcing the burden to the
>> submitting
>> composer / musicologist / whoever, it opens up participation to a wider
>> range of people.
>>
>> My original question still stands, though.  I think that it is worth it
>> for
>> a community of users of any free software (where I mean free in every
>> sense
>> of the term) to be active in contacting organizations whose rules are
>> hostile to the free usage of software.  It helps organizations learn
>> about
>> free software (both the software itself and the mentality of freedom
>> behind
>> the software), thereby encouraging these organizations to adopt policies
>> that are conducive to this type of free-ness / free-dom.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> MS
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