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Re: Default beaming for 3/4
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David Kastrup |
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Re: Default beaming for 3/4 |
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Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:12:16 +0200 |
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"Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Kastrup" <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 1:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Default beaming for 3/4
>
>
>> Nick Payne <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond
>>> default beaming for 3/4 is incorrect in the following example; it
>>> should be beamed as in the second bar:
>>>
>>> \version "2.14.2"
>>>
>>> \relative c' {
>>> \time 3/4
>>> c4. c8 c c
>>> c4. c8 c[ c]
>>> }
>>
>> Is that the _exact_ example given by Gould?
>
> Yes.
Sigh. That makes it harder to find good rules. For example, consider
\relative c' {
\time 3/4
c8 c c c c c
r c c c c c
}
How would you want that beamed? Now
\relative c' {
\time 3/4
c8 c c c c c
r4 r8 c c c
}
And then
\relative c' {
\time 3/4
c8 c c c c c
r4. c8 c c
}
And finally again
\relative c' {
\time 3/4
c4~ c8 c c c
}
and
\relative c' {
\time 3/4
c4. c8 c c c
}
My personal leaning is towards not giving the off-beat a stem of its own
if the on-beat has been merged into another note or rest. So my
personal feeling is to beam like in the second system:
\new StaffGroup <<
\time 3/4
\relative c' {
c8 c c c c c
r c c c c c
r4 r8 c c c
r4. c8 c c
c4~ c8 c c c
c4. c8 c c
}
\relative c' {
c8[ c c c c c]
r c[ c c c c]
r4 r8 c c[ c]
r4. c8[ c c]
c4~ c8 c c[ c]
c4. c8[ c c]
}
>>
Note that this would not agree with Gould. Paraphrasing the gut rule I
apply here, this would likely be something like
An off-beat can be beamed to the next group if its on-beat is not
explicitly present.
Gould-compatible would be something like
Rests, spacer rests and notes implicit in augmentation dots are
counted as normal notes in an autobeamed figure with regard to
deciding whether a beaming exception is to be applied. Note that the
autobeam will in no case actually extend across a rest.
That would split the beams of the last measure, but retain those of the
second measure.
--
David Kastrup
Re: Default beaming for 3/4, Hans Aberg, 2011/08/26
Re: Default beaming for 3/4, Gerard McConnell, 2011/08/26