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Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines


From: Siska Ádám
Subject: Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:49:09 +0100

On 2012.03.10., at 8:51, Siska Ádám wrote:
> On 2012.03.10., at 3:00, Nick Payne wrote:
>> On 10/03/12 10:24, Siska Ádám wrote:
>>> On 2012.03.09., at 23:44, -Eluze wrote:
>>>> Siska Ádám-4 wrote:
>>>>> Dear list,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been using Lilypond for a while, but only to create excerpts of
>>>>> classical music. Now I'd like to try whether I could switch from
>>>>> hand-engraving to Lilypond with my own music. I'm trying to engrave an
>>>>> orchestral piece that requires 'time/space notation'. I found most of the
>>>>> instructions in the manual for this, however, I can't figure out how to
>>>>> put the first noteheads of the measures exactly over their respective bar
>>>>> lines (like in some of Tristan Murail's scores, for example). Could you
>>>>> please give me an advice on how to achieve this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help is highly appreciated,
>>>> I can't really imagine what this should look like - can you provide an
>>>> excerpt or scan of this!?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks
>>>> Eluze
>>> 
>>> Dear Eluze,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thank you for your reply. Attached please find two PNGs. The 
>>> 'current_state.png' shows an example of the settings I'm using right now 
>>> (with the note head coming a bit after the dashed barline) and 
>>> 'what_i_need.png' would be the solution that I'm looking for (with the 
>>> barline exactly on the first note of the measure, which I solved for now 
>>> with some graphic apps, but of course, that's not a real solution).
>> 
>> I don't know if it's of much use for your purposes, but you can use a 
>> notehead glyph as a rehearsal mark, which positions it directly on the 
>> barline:
>> 
>> \relative c' {
>>   d4 d d d
>>   \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -5.9)
>>   \mark\markup\normalsize { \musicglyph #"noteheads.s2" } d
>> }
> 
> Dear Nick,
> 
> thanks for this! Although in terms of musical-logic it is not a solution, but 
> it looks exactly like what I need.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ádám


Dear Nick,


I just realized that the solution is not as good as it seemed to be. It seems 
that if I use a markup, the distance between subsequent crotchets won't be the 
same, as the first crotchet of the measure (the one that is represented by the 
markup) will be placed a little more left than it should be. So I need a 
solution where the actual bar lines would move 'a bit to the right' in order to 
be in sync with the first notehead in the measure.


Thanks,
Ádám




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