Re: lyrics in cadenza

[Helge Kruse]

Thomas,

this solves the problem. Chaning the order of cadenzaOff and melismaEnd 
removed the misinterpretion of the lyrics. The cadenzaOff must be placed one 
measure for the next bar. Setting a manual bar is just smart although 
unexpected (*). Another advantage I see is that the lyrics don't need to be 
tweaked.

Thanks
Helge

(*) "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition" ,-)

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: Thomas Morley
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:04 PM
To: Helge Kruse
Cc: Phil Holmes ; address@hidden
Subject: Re: lyrics in cadenza

2012/7/9 Helge Kruse <address@hidden>:
> Hello Phil,
>
> thanks for reply. I tried to fix this with \skip as well as with \melisma.
> Unfortunately both failed.
>
> When I use \skip I get near to the expected result. Inside the cadenza I
> have to use manual beaming. As long as I leave the last four quavers 
> without
> beaming brackets Lilypond sets the lyrics fine. When I try to put the
> brackets to the quavers, the lyrics disappear although I adapt the \skip
> repeat count accordingly.
>
> When I use \melisma and \melismaEnd I get the same bad result as I got 
> with
> the slur. Removing the cadenza lets the lyrics appear. But there is really 
> a
> cadenza. (see autograph)
>
> Additionally the first variant with \skip compiles completely different 
> with
> Lilypond 2.14.2. It has the same lyrics problem, but the strange line 
> break
> is new with 2.15.40.
>
> Regards
> Helge
>
> \version "2.15.40"
>
> soprano = \relative c''  { % to be connected with \skip in the lyrics
>   \key d \major  \clef soprano  \time 2/4
> r8 e d c |
> b \cadenzaOn g'~\fermata g16[ fis a g] fis[ e d c] b[ c d c] b[ a g fis] 
> e8
> c' b \cadenzaOff  a  g16. a32 a4\trill
> |  d,4 r
> }
>
> sopranoMel = \relative c''  {
>   \key d \major  \clef soprano  \time 2/4
> r8 e d c |
> b \cadenzaOn \melisma g'~\fermata g16[ fis a g] fis[ e d c] b[ c d c] b[ a 
> g
> fis] e8[ c' b \cadenzaOff a] g16.[ a32] \melismaEnd a4\trill
> |  d,4 r
> }
>
> sopranoWords = \lyricmode { zu neu -- en Freu  -- { \repeat unfold 10 
> \skip
> 1 } den wach. }
> sopranoMelWords = \lyricmode { zu neu -- en Freu  -- den wach. }
>
> \score { <<
>     \new Staff { \new Voice = "one" \soprano } \new Lyrics \lyricsto "one" 
> {
> \sopranoWords  }
> > > }
>
> \score { <<
>   \new Staff { \new Voice = "two" \sopranoMel } \new Lyrics \lyricsto 
> "two"
> { \sopranoMelWords  }
> > > }
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Holmes
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:49 PM
> To: Helge Kruse ; address@hidden
> Subject: Re: lyrics in cadenza
>
> > 1) Lilypond reports that it finds an unlimited hyphen. It removes the
> > hyphen as well as the remaining text.
> >
> > 2) I need the slur to indicate that the notes belong to one syllable.
> > That's okay, so Lilypond knows how long the coloratura should be. But
> > I would like to hide the slur, since the singer doesn't need it. The
> > autograph doesn't have a slur anyway. Can you help hiding it?
>
> Please check the documentation for \skip or \melisma which should do what
> you want.
>
>
>
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Hi Helge,

how about:

\version "2.15.39"

sopranoMel = \relative c''  {
       \key d \major
       \clef soprano
       \time 2/4
       r8 e d c |
       % ensure that there's no Break
       \noBreak
       \cadenzaOn
         b \melisma g'~\fermata
         g16[ fis a g]
         fis[ e d c]
         b[ c d c]
         b[ a g fis]
         e8[ c' b  a]
         g16.[ a32] \melismaEnd
         a4\trill
         \bar "|"
       \cadenzaOff
       d,4 r
}

sopranoMelWords = \lyricmode { zu neu -- en Freu  -- den wach. }

\score {
       <<
       \new Staff
         \new Voice = "two" \sopranoMel
         \new Lyrics \lyricsto "two" \sopranoMelWords
       >>
}


HTH,
 Harm