Re: dynamics seperatate from the notes entry

[James Bailey]

On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Karl Hammar <address@hidden> wrote:

> How do I merge Ds and Ms below so it will behave as if I wrote the
> dynamics together with the notes?
> 
> smorz = \markup { \italic smorz }
> sotto = \markup { \italic { sotto voce } }
> Ds = {
>  s1*10 | s1^\sotto | s4 s2.\f | s4 s2.^\smorz | s1\p | s1\pp | s1*2 |
>  s2 s\pppp | s4 s8. s16\f\> s4 s8.\! s16 | s2 s\pp |
>  % ...
> }
> Ms =  \context Voice = Vs \relative a' {
>  %\keya
>  R1*8 |
>  R1*2 |
>  e2\( fis | % 3 11
>  gis8\) r gis4\( gis gis\) |
>  a8 r a4\( d d\) |
>  c2\( a\) |
>  a2.\( gis4\) | % 4 15
>  a8 r r4 r2 |
>  % ...
> }
> 
> ///
> 
> If I use << \Ms \\ \Ds >> the dynamics will come out to the left
> (compared to the in the notes version), probably since the dynamics
> are centered under the notes and a skip doesn't have a width (?).
> 
> If I use \new Dynamics the dynamics will come out fine but the markups
> comes out int the wrong line place (since it doesn't belong to the notes
> staff any longer) and the dynamics comes too close to the lyrics
> just below.
> 
> I could possible use \partcombine \Ms \Ds, whith
> 
> ignore = \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
> Ds = \relative a' {
>  s1*10 | s1^\sotto | s4 \once\ignore g\f s2 |
>  % ...
> }
> 
> but it seems a little too much dependend on the notes in Ms.
> 
> ///
> 
> I'm trying to set Gioachino Rossinis "petite messe solennelle" [1] and
> I have got to the Kyrie, i.e. I've just started. I'm using the
> Brandus & Dufur edition [2] (probable 1869 according to [3]).
> The definitive modern edition seems to be [4], the editor has some
> notes at [5].
> 
> [1] 
> http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/GRossini/petite_messe_solennelle/01_kyrie.ly
> [2] 
> http://imslp.org/images/e/ee/PMLP29942-Rossini_-_Petite_Messe_solennelle_%28vs_Brandus%29.pdf
> [3] http://www.classicstoday.com/features/RossiniMesse.pdf
> [4] https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/sheetmusic/product/?artNo=BA10501
> [5] 
> http://humanities.uchicago.edu/orgs/ciao/Introductory/Essays%20from%20CIAO/Petite%20Messe%20versions.htm
> 
> 
> Regards,
> /Karl Hammar
> 
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I use almost exactly your configuration for vocal music with just a few 
modifications.
1) \new Dynamics
2) (as needed) alignAboveContext

A simple example would be:
\version "2.16.0"
global = { \tempo 4=120 }
vocal = \relative c' { c4 d e f }
vocalDynamics = { s4\f s8\<  s\! s\> s\! s4\p }
vocalText = \lyricmode { This is some text }
\score {
   <<
      \new Staff = "vocal" <<
         \new Voice = "vocal" << \global \vocal >>
         \new Dynamics \with {alignAboveContext = "vocal" } \vocalDynamics
      >>
      \new Lyrics \lyricsto "vocal" \vocalText
   >>
   \layout {}
}