Re: Guide to Writing Orchestral Scores with Lilypond?????

[SoundsFromSound]

Wow...this score reminds me of why I use LilyPond for all my final engravings
- it looks stunning man, GREAT job.

Thank you for sharing!

Ben



Antonio Gervasoni wrote
> Wow! I didn't expect all this enthusiasm and eagerness to
> collaborate....... at least no so fast!
> 
> Ben wrote:
> 
>> That's very kind of you to offer your own personal documentation on how
>> you grasped LilyPond 
>> and its power.  I'm sure that if you put together a PDF guide and
>> uploaded it somewhere 
>> (Dropbox, your site, etc) and posted the link here in the mailing list,
>> many would be 
>> grateful and appreciative. 
> 
> I always thought it was the least I could do, since I have been able to
> create this score only because others decided to do the same thing!
> 
> Urs wrote:
> 
>>> This is a _very_ good idea, and I would be pleased to get you 'into 
>>> my boat'.
> 
> Count me in!!! Please!!! I took a look at your site and the first thing
> that came to my mind was "why haven't I seen this website before???" I
> agree with everything you say in the introduction. I experienced the same
> things.
> 
>>> I'll probably change to some kind of PDF delivery because it was 
>>> unnecessarily complicated to get it on web pages).
> 
> I agree! Too much time would be wasted in the layout of the webpage when
> you just have to write a document in LibreOffice, create a PDF file out of
> it and upload it somewhere. 
> 
>>> During the development of a musical edition some others and me created
>>> the base 
>>> for a kind of LilyPond toolkit library. When the edition is finished 
>>> we'll change that to be an open source project hosted on Github. This 
>>> will consist of sets of functionality, templates and examples which 
>>> of course have to be well documented.
>>> The 'includable' library can and is intended to be 
>>> accompanied by more or less standalone essays (like how to set up 
>>> projects to be variable, how to deal with complicated transpositions, 
>>> how to change the overall visual appearance of scores etc.)
> 
> Amazing! Again, count me in!
> 
> Wim wrote:
> 
>> Not replacing the learning manual 
>> but as an addition with e.g. an orchestral example build in stages 
>> (with all the intermediate files available for who is interested to 
>> follow the process in detail.
> 
> Precisely! The Learning Manual is already a great source of information
> but it needs to be complemented with 'productivity tools' and '(best)
> practice strategies', as Urs pointed out.
> 
>> The only drawback I can think of now (for 
>> this "Guide") would be that it might be better to start with a smaller 
>> example first (e.g. a guide to write a SATB piece or smaller lead 
>> sheet). To get the process right before drowning in a large example.
> 
> I think that might be a much bigger project than the one I had in mind! My
> intention was just to document my process of creating an orchestral score.
> I agree that a guide that starts from more simple examples and builds
> itself up to the most complex ones would be an awesome document but then
> we would need a lot of people contributing to this effort, documenting
> their experiences writing different types of scores. It could be done
> though, and I'm definitely in if it gets to that point but for now I'm
> just thinking about orchestral scores.
> 
>> I've written documentation texts for years, so I think I can 
>> probably fit in. But most of all I can't guarantee the speed.
> 
> Awesome! I have absolutely no knowledge on that and also one of the things
> I have been worried about, when thinking about documenting my process, is
> that my use of the English language is far from being the one needed to
> write such a document (being that my native language is Spanish)
> 
>> And most important: Am I welcome on this adventure?
> 
> From my part, by all means! Up till know I was just thinking about writing
> the document myself and uploading all the files. Now, looking at the
> possibility of a collaborative effort I am absolutely thrilled!
> 
> At this point I think it might be good to give everyone reading this
> thread an idea of what I meant with my first post. I just put in my
> Dropbox the full score I've been working on for the past months. It is not
> complete yet! I still have to typeset the parts of the second violins,
> violas, cellos and double basses but you can get an idea of what I was
> referring to when I said it is a very complex score. Here's the link:
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4857747/Icarus%20Jan-08-2013.pdf
> 
> Finally, I have only used Lilypond for over a year and I am not a
> programmer nor do I have any knowledge of Scheme. I majored from a
> computing science career called Systems Engineering, but that was a long
> time ago. I then majored in Music Composition at the National Conservatory
> Music (in Peru, my country) and have dedicated myself to composition ever
> since. Therefore, I can only offer what I have learned in the very brief
> time I've been using Lilypond as well as the experience and knowledge
> acquired in the practice of my profession. I hope this suffices!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio





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