Re: [SPAM] Re: acciaccatura before barline

[Urs Liska]

Thanks, that's clarifying. Abs confirming that my model's notation is "correct".

David Stephen Grant <address@hidden> schrieb am 27.03.2014:

Elaine Gould writes: "Grace notes sounding on the beat should always be placed after the barline. However, a group of three or more grace notes sounding before the beat may go before the barline so that the first beat of the following bar is not pushed too far from the barline." (Behind Bars, p. 127). However, to avoid ambiguity it is recommended to specify how the grace notes should be performed, eg. "All grace notes to be performed before/on the beat". As for slurs, she advises slurring to the following measured value provided that this is the intended articulation. Kurt Stone (Music Notation in the Twentieth Century, p. 22) seems to recommend omitting the slur entirely, and adding a staccato dot if the grace note(s) should be detached.

On 27 March 2014 18:22, Urs Liska <address@hidden> wrote:

Is that really true? I've seen this notation regularly. What the composers seem to intend - and what is easily understood - is that the slur indicates that the grpup logically belongs to the _next_ note while the position before the barline tells to okay _before_ the beat.

David Raleigh Arnold <address@hidden> schrieb am 27.03.2014:

On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:16:51 +0100
Urs Liska <address@hidden> wrote:


Hi all,

consider the attached image.
Apart from the problematic slur which I don't want to deal with
right now, how can I typeset the acciaccatura _before_ the
barline.

I was thinking of hacking something with \afterGrace, but

that's not what it is.

But that is what it is. The legatura (slur) should attach to a
previous something in the previous measure if
you want the grace before the beat. If that is not what
you mean, omit the legatura and just use small notes. What

you want would have notes before the beat which the legatura
mark indicates to be played on the beat. That is a
self-contradiction, and therefore ambiguous.
Regards, Rale

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