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Re: repeat, alternative, partial and full bar


From: Ali Cuota
Subject: Re: repeat, alternative, partial and full bar
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 05:51:22 -0500

Hello,

I want to see exactly what shows this minimal example, except that the
"space" is not desired.
This is from an hymn melody and I do the SATB setting. So I would like
to have the original "optic". And with so short repeats, it doesnt
make sense to enlarge the alternative.
Now, without the s8, the half-note of alternative 2. begins in the
remaining half-beat and so the rest of the song.
Thats why.
Thanks in advance

Franck

2015-01-26 1:58 GMT-05:00, Brian Barker <address@hidden>:
> At 19:54 25/01/2015 -0500, you wrote:
>>I wonder how to codify correctly this minimal example:
>
> That depends on what you want to see!
>
>>the s8 is here to fullfill the bar, but take some space and should not.
>
> o Why do you think you need this? If you want to go back to the
> starting quaver upbeat, it's important that the first-time bar is
> *not* complete. But that would mean that the repeat bar-line comes at
> a point within a bar, not at the end. The second-time part would have
> to start with a partial bar of only a quaver length.
>
> o Your first-time bar (as marked) is half a bar. Is this ever
> permissible? None of Elaine Gould's examples show this.
>
> o With the first-time bar being only the second half of a bar, the
> minim at the start of the second-time version completes the bar and
> should be followed by a bar line. Then the four barred quavers and
> the final minim should be a contiguous bar - with no intervening
> bar-line. Is that what you mean?
>
>>Is there a better way?
>
> Yes - but that depends on exactly what you mean. I started to try to
> correct this, but that's not possible without knowing how you think
> it should actually expand.
>
> Brian Barker - privately
>
>



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