Re: Hungarian Gregorian

[Rita Composer]

Dear All of you,

Thank you very much.

I'm richer with two types of solutions

One perfect copy http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=973

And another with not as complicated demands that Pierre suggested http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1801.msg9962#msg9962

I attache it, for me it is more handy, suitable :-)

I'm going to offer my Hungarian friends who also waiting for some kind of solution.

Thank you very much in deed!

Sister Judit

2015-01-29 3:43 GMT+01:00 Ali Cuota <address@hidden>:

Dear Sr. Judit,

I thought, there is some kind of reason like this one...

Honestly, the conventional gregorian typo is almost self-explanatory,
and has a very tough "spelling". I noticed this first when trying to
use another (more lily-friendly than gregorian.ly) system.
But nevertheless, I follow this thread and see if there is an
automagic solution for your use.

Cordially

Franck

2015-01-28 18:48 GMT-05:00, Trevor Daniels <address@hidden>:

> Hi
>
> Bad news, I'm afraid.  There is no simple way to change the shape of the
> note heads used in Gregorian ligatures (the things coded as \[ ... \]).
> These ligatures are built up from a wide variety of glyphs in
> Vaticana_ligature_engraver.cc.  The whole ligature is then treated as a
> single graphical object so the spacing of its components is not affected by
> changes in layout.  The same applies to Mensural notation.
>
> The work done by Pierre is an excellent start, but as he acknowledged it's
> not easy to use.  If this could be coupled with a suitable input syntax
> which could be interpreted by a music function to invoke the new grobs he
> defined it would be much more usable.  As a final stage that could be
> converted into a new engraver.  But that is quite a lot of work.
>
> Sorry this is not much help.
>
> Trevor
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Rita Composer
>   To: Pierre Perol-Schneider
>   Cc: address@hidden ; address@hidden
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:24 PM
>   Subject: Re: Hungarian Gregorian
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>
>   Wow, that looks perfect :-)
>   My little problem, is that it seems very complicated to me to creat/
> edit...
>
>
>   I was wandering, that could you override  melisma setting?
>   Because I have problem with the  shape of the notes.
>   (I don't know the name of this \[ g a h c \] )
>
>
>   I could solve the 5th line, we can override stem.
>   I hope it's possible, and I don't have to deal with so complicated
> adjusting.
>
>
>   Here is my example again. Where it would be great to change the shape of
> the  classical gregorian notes.
>
>
>   Thanks
>   Sister Judit
>
>
>   chantEgy = \relative c' {
>   \override NoteHead.style = #'default
>
>   \[ g a h c \]
>
>   c h a g \divisioMinima
>
>   \[ h4 \virga a g \] d' c h a g \divisioMinima
>
>   \finalis
>
>   }
>
>   verba = \lyricmode {
>
>   Lo -- _ _ _ rem ip -- sum do -- lor _ _ sit a -- men a -- men
>
>   }
>
>   \markup { 3 }
>
>   \score {
>
>   \new VaticanaStaff <<
>
>   \override VaticanaStaff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = #5
>
>   \new VaticanaVoice = "melody" \chantEgy
>
>   % \new VaticanaVoice = "melody" \chantKettő
>
>   \new Lyrics = "one" \lyricsto melody \verba
>
>   >>
>
>   \layout {
>
>   \context {
>
>   \VaticanaStaff
>
>   \override StaffSymbol.color = #black
>
>   \override LedgerLineSpanner.color = #black
>
>   }
>
>   }
>
>   }
>
>
>
>   2015-01-28 17:36 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider
> <address@hidden>:
>
>     <please respond to the list>
>
>
>     Hi Sister Judith,
>
>
>     Yes, you're right - not so much time though, interesting time I should
> say!
>
>     I've added a draft to the LSR : http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=973
>
>     Stems and ornaments have been changed into other characters.
>
>     Glad you loke it.
>
>
>     Cheers,
>     Pierre
>
>
>
>     2015-01-28 17:26 GMT+01:00 Rita Composer <address@hidden>:
>
>       Wow, thank you so much!!!
>
>
>       The layout/ view is almost perfect :-)
>
>       The curved "stems" are a bit too far from the notes.
>
>
>       Am I right that you used signs instead of notes?
>
>       You must have been spending quite much time to do. (for me it seems a
> bit complicated at the moment...I try to get used to it)
>
>
>       Thank you very much!
>
>       Sister Judit
>
>
>
>       2015-01-28 15:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider
> <address@hidden>:
>
>         Hi,
>
>
>         First of all, I have to admit that I know almost nothing about those
> type of chants.
>
>         Anyway...
>
>         AFAIK, there is no predefined context or commands that will do -
> exactly - such scores.
>         I've done something similar on the german forum :
> http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1801.msg9962#msg9962
>
>         The main idea was to put one voice per grouped note.
>
>
>         In your particular case it does not seem to be a good idea; So
> please find attached a compilable file :
>
>         1. I've tried to stick as much as possible to your original pdf.
>
>         2. the idea was to change the note heads stencil with grouped notes
> - with or without stems, spaces and/or ornaments.
>
>         3. not easy...
>
>
>         Hope you'll find better and/or easier solution.
>
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Pierre
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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