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From: | Kaj |
Subject: | Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?) |
Date: | Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:10:45 +0100 |
User-agent: | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 |
Hi Joram!I will say that compilations and overviews like this are most valuable and usable tools for people (like me) in the state where the different objects and concepts begin to come out of the shadows, but still you do not know the connections between them or their exact roles. So thank you very much. The sheet has got its deserved place on the wall ahead of me and the computer.
One thing (among others) I still do not understand: why are there three keys describing the distance between staves and systems? In the Notation Reference (http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-paper-variables#structure-of-flexible-vertical-spacing-alists) one tries to describe how they are defined. But, if I understand it correct, the effective (resulting) distance will always be the biggest of the three, hence
effective_distance = max(minimum-distance; basic-distance; padding).Is there any reason to use three, one should be sufficient. If they were adding like
resulting_distance = minimum-distance + basic-distance + paddingthis could motivate the number, but I cannot read this from the manual. Nor does your very good sheet give a definite answer. So I do not see the reason. Historical maybe?
Kaj Den 2015-02-21 14:04, skrev Noeck:
Hi Kaj, hi Lilypond users, I also would like to say that again that spacing is a bit daunting. But I hope with the help you got here, it is possible to adjust the spacing you need. The deeper understanding will come with time and it is difficult if one wants to understand everything at once. To make the use of spacing settings easier, I put the most relevant settings on this page: http://joramberger.de/files/LilypondSpacing.pdf The aim of this is not to explain everything – that is better done in the docs – but to give a visual summary of the spacing settings and an example (on the left) how to change them. If you know that there are different settings in the paper and in the layout block and that there are fixed distances (in mm, cm, in) and flexible spacings (minimum-distance, basic-distance, padding, strechability), then this cheat sheet should make it easier to adjust all these to your liking. Cheers, Joram PS: Lyrics and other nonstaff spacings are to be done.
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