Re: Fixing overlapping notation

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On 25/04/2015 00:35, Thomas Morley wrote:
> And please, this is_not_  a tiny example!
> You would significantly increase your chance to get help from the list
> if you'd try to reduce it to tiny examples only showing_one_  problem.
I do appreciate that you don't want to look through too much code. BUT.

It seems to me that there is too much "addressing one issue", when my 
big problem is conflicting solutions! In other words, the solution to 
one problem promptly screws up the solution to another!

Take the "Allegretto con Moto" "Take 2nd on D.S." issue. In the original 
pdf, they were \markup's stacked above each other. Kieren's suggested 
solved that issue, but pushed "Take 2nd on D.S." into the first time 
bar. Following the docu and lsr, I have now tried converting "Take 2nd 
on D.S." into a \mark, which fixes the alignment issue, pushing it back 
over the 7 bars rest where it belongs, but it breaks Kieren's fix for 
the stacking! :-(

And from the very original post, I had hoped it was pretty clear that 
the problem lay in just a couple of lines in one file. So who cares if 
there's a lot of extraneous stuff that can (mostly) be ignored.

I don't want to moan at people who are being helpful, that doesn't help 
matters anywhere. But I hope you can see my point too - there's no point 
fixing my current problem if it promptly breaks something else 
elsewhere! And the solution seems to be tweaks and over-rides that 
aren't documented because the "simple" solution works fine on its own 
but not in conjunction with something else!

That's why I find using lilypond so frustrating at times - it really 
cannot handle colliding markups very well (sorry Kieren!). Every time I 
find a new work-around another problem kicks me in the face.

And that's why I'd like to see full-blown pieces heavily commented as a 
teaching aid. Because then it's *forced* to address issues like this - 
when problems collide and the easy solution doesn't work because you've 
got two problems not one and the two solutions just won't co-operate.

Sorry for the rant,
Wol